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My Idea that I haven't seen in other games.

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My Idea that I haven't seen in other games.

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Skyhigh
01.17.2013 , 01:06 PM | #1
I think it'd be sweet if on the fleets there was a section like the sports books in Vegas where there were some big boards and you could bet on and watch some WZ's. Maybe an upgrade to make the Collector's edition people not feel ripped off like we were. I.E. Collector's Edition vendor Access to it Up top on fleet or somewhere thereabouts. Free access for upgraded sub payers and NO cartel access cards/f2p. Strictly sub fun. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement but what other game has that?? I think it would be fun and attractive to get new people to play and stay subbed. An interesting way to make ingame credits for those that don't like PvE. Thoughts?

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AsheraII
01.17.2013 , 01:35 PM | #2
Sounds fun, though I'm not sure how to implement the "live view" though. Maybe a huge map of the WZ showing controlled nodes and classmarkers for the various players or something? Maybe add a red circle or blue circle around the classmarkers to better tell the teams apart as well.
Oh, and if it's data from an actual WZ being played, I'd actually suggest it to have a 20-30 second delay as well, so "viewers" in the bookie office (actually, make it a cantina!) can't spoil too much usefull information to friends within the warzone through instant messages, voice chat, etc. So by the time the audience sees an operative hiding at an enemy node, that information should already be outdated (or not, but they wouldn't know for another 20 seconds!).
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Skyhigh
01.17.2013 , 02:31 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
Sounds fun, though I'm not sure how to implement the "live view" though. Maybe a huge map of the WZ showing controlled nodes and classmarkers for the various players or something? Maybe add a red circle or blue circle around the classmarkers to better tell the teams apart as well.
Oh, and if it's data from an actual WZ being played, I'd actually suggest it to have a 20-30 second delay as well, so "viewers" in the bookie office (actually, make it a cantina!) can't spoil too much usefull information to friends within the warzone through instant messages, voice chat, etc. So by the time the audience sees an operative hiding at an enemy node, that information should already be outdated (or not, but they wouldn't know for another 20 seconds!).
It's not impossible to do a live view. It may not be "easy" but what's the point in developing a video game if you don't want it to be great or top notch over others right? I would suggest it being a rated live view and the teams actually fighting get a bonus for being the feature. There are many things that can be suggested to improve the idea. But that last thing I envision is simplifying. Instead of people just standing on the fleet b.s.ing politics make the chatter about the game....get people involved. In my head I see on large main screen and smaller node screens and a numbers board with the names. Bet taking NPC's that give you 2 mins before a match to place your wager without refund...offer better payouts for lower rated wins.

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MitchPB
01.18.2013 , 05:28 AM | #4
It sounds like an awsome idea I can just imagine the laaaaaag though
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_Darkstar
01.18.2013 , 05:32 AM | #5
People have suggested being able to have a spectator mode for WZ and OPs (And I saw it in WoW too, they even slightly implemented it), though this is a new take on the idea.

I actually prefer your idea if it can be done well, because it keeps the fleet active and shows signs of life. Would probably get ignored fast though and be a lot of work for not much reward unfortunately.
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Chickensevil
01.20.2013 , 01:37 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by _Darkstar View Post
People have suggested being able to have a spectator mode for WZ and OPs (And I saw it in WoW too, they even slightly implemented it), though this is a new take on the idea.

I actually prefer your idea if it can be done well, because it keeps the fleet active and shows signs of life. Would probably get ignored fast though and be a lot of work for not much reward unfortunately.
I wouldnt be so sure on that. People love spectator sports and if you can bet on teams I think that would make it very active. Implement a camera (or even randomly jack into other people's field of view) and it wouldnt hit on lag so much... I wouldnt think. Since you are not actually physically there, you would just be receiving a feed of the match. If it is broadcast on a big screen in a cantina (with maybe a clickable option to go full screen) you would only be adding one extra "player" or 2 or three depending on the overview cameras they add.

Take a look at "The Secret World" (dunno if it is in any other game, as this was the first I saw it in) and when you die in a dungeon you rez up and then get an "camera" button. This lets you generally pick from 4 or 5 stationary cameras on the edges of the area that track individual players on the field. Something like this would work, but I still think, grabbing peoples FOV's would also be cool, just remove the HUD and bam you don't have a ton of information, nor would you be invading someones "privacy" for their actual screen view.

Personally I think its a cool idea, and one which fits within the realm of star wars anyway since gambling is a big part of the lore.
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Brimmer
01.20.2013 , 08:34 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Skyhigh View Post
I think it'd be sweet if on the fleets there was a section like the sports books in Vegas where there were some big boards and you could bet on and watch some WZ's. Maybe an upgrade to make the Collector's edition people not feel ripped off like we were. I.E. Collector's Edition vendor Access to it Up top on fleet or somewhere thereabouts. Free access for upgraded sub payers and NO cartel access cards/f2p. Strictly sub fun. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement but what other game has that?? I think it would be fun and attractive to get new people to play and stay subbed. An interesting way to make ingame credits for those that don't like PvE. Thoughts?
Those would be rather boring and pointless bets. Just bet on the pre-made group, and you'd have a rather high chance to win. Problem is everybody would bet on the pre-mades since they typically have voice chat, and decent team work.
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MitchPB
01.20.2013 , 04:34 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Brimmer View Post
Those would be rather boring and pointless bets. Just bet on the pre-made group, and you'd have a rather high chance to win. Problem is everybody would bet on the pre-mades since they typically have voice chat, and decent team work.
How about betting on ranked then?
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AsheraII
01.20.2013 , 06:19 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Brimmer View Post
Those would be rather boring and pointless bets. Just bet on the pre-made group, and you'd have a rather high chance to win. Problem is everybody would bet on the pre-mades since they typically have voice chat, and decent team work.
Such things could be worked into the calculations, and mimic those payout rates bookies use.

Another way would be to make it a pool with a fixed bet value, like 100cr. The game puts 50cr into the pool, each player wanting to make a bet pays 100cr, payout is 90% of the pot, shared evenly between the winners, the other 10% goes back to the game.

So let's say, only 1 player plays, that makes 150cr in the pot. If he wins, he gets 135cr, 15cr tax to the game.
When there's 10 players, evenly divided in bets, that would make 1050cr in the pot. 945cr divided between 5 winners = 189cr each, 105cr tax to the game. When a lot of people bet on the same team, you could end up winning the bet and still loosing credits. But hey, I'm not the one making stupid bets. And it can only remain fun if the bets are relatively small anyway.
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Skyhigh
01.21.2013 , 10:02 AM | #10
Bump.....Thanks for looking in and the added ideas. I think this could add to the game experience.