why are people freaking out about Ilum in 1.7?

correct i play PVP on my vanguard (no pve gear at all) as a main, and PVE as a main on my operative raffes, but it only took me a week to get my full Warhero gear so ill be taking him to event aswell

i like to be involved so i do everything i prefer pvp so i am so happy event for this ... but i do understand the point of view of the 100% pve crowd saying, why are their NPC's in a pvp area. i played LOTR online back in the day the Events which codemasters organized (what use to be EU side lotro) well they use to put NPC's into the Ettenmoors, even GM's use to play as *trolls + **rangers with a few million health and then they tried new things with the balrog of morgoth and the free peoples and monster players trying to kill it together... during these type of the event there was no ganking because the GM's from CM was the target ... when they died all hell broke loose and they was so much fun... and i think you find on lotro there is no cross team talk
*=this does not include the normal players who used 5k destiny points with the outnumbered buffs
**=same as above

you never know this could be the test for the servers to see if a Dev from BW can play as a Jedi or sith (maybe even a AT-AT) to see if they can get good old real Pvp ... ofc i dropped of topic .. this is a Gree starship but i am to expect unexpected

You missed the smiley after it, it was not meant to be serious. However, if you have psychological disorders that keep you from interacting with people on at least minimal basis, then I feel sorry for you, as living with that has to horrifying. But, if I might suggest, MMO is not a very good genre for you, as it is just full of people

Well, it may seem as a majority, but I think it is just a very vocal minority or people with some unresolved complexes that take them out by killing others while getting absolutely nothing from it.
I am not saying that they do not exist, I am just saying that not all PvP players are jerks who teabag you after quickly dispatching you.
On the side note however, one-shotting is something I have yet to see in this game, but I agree, if stronger person catches you unprepared, you are pretty much done for. So hint: Put on your free Recruit MK2 gear when entering area known for gankers

That is why BW started handing out Recruit gear to all players (via a quest), to help them keep up. They already upgraded it once to a better version, and after the gear progressions of PvP equip will increase again some more, I am sure we will move on to Recruit MK3 gear, and so on.

That day will never come, simply because new gear will come at as you need reach certain lvls, making the previous "top" gear obsolete and the new "base" (which is easily obtained) gear above that. We've already seen this happen, the gear gap is much easier to close than when launch came about. Those were dark days for new pvp'ers. So BW learned their lesson, problem solved, your prediction simply will not happen.

I'm in a fairly active guild. I still have absolutely no desire to go into a PvP area, even in a group.

Things definitely changed from wearing PVE gear to being able now to get War Hero when you hit 50,

Well, then don't go there, but do not raise hell all over forums about not being able to get all content solo...

All I see in this thread is a bunch of people who only do PVE whining like babies, because this pacticular event may not be for them. Personally I enjoy both PVE and PVP so win for me and many others like me and also for those who only do PVP, because, even though they may have to do some PVE to earn the rewards from event, at least they are getting something, besides only two measily WZ's since Launch. Noboy is forcing anybody to do anything. If you don't like don't do it, simple as that. Like others have said 90 percent of the content in this game is PVE related. PVP'ers and people who like to both PVP and PVE are getting something to enjoy for once and you arnt. Get over it.

I've done everything there is to do in MMORPGs, and organised PvP (and especially RvR) is by far the most fun you can have in an MMO.

You should give it a try.

Well, I have only just got into PvP in TOR and as a new player I love it, even if I am only running dailies for now.

I agree PvP could do with a little more love as regards Open World scenarios etc. But as for it being a gank anywhere always 'overt' game I would have to disagree.

That was the single most annoying and most often complained about feature of SWG, the Player Bounty system. a BH could go to a terminal, take you as a mission and gank you un-announced anywhere apart from in a locked house or on your ship (Cantinas were safe zones too I think).

Ok interesting game mechanic but when you have spent MONTHS grinding a Jedi out only for someone to come along and kill you and 'take XP away from you and send you into debt' was a real game breaker for a lot of people.

Ok there are fans of that system and those opposed to it, fair enough, but what I am trying to say is perma-overt forced PvP is never going to do this game any favours, just speaking from experience. By all means lets see the scope of PvP widened, lets have open areas, hell even full planets, where it is a free for all, but make sure it is a choice, and make sure anyone going there knows you are overt and attackable by the opposite faction.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vigilanis

Well, I have only just got into PvP in TOR and as a new player I love it, even if I am only running dailies for now.

I agree PvP could do with a little more love as regards Open World scenarios etc. But as for it being a gank anywhere always 'overt' game I would have to disagree.

That was the single most annoying and most often complained about feature of SWG, the Player Bounty system. a BH could go to a terminal, take you as a mission and gank you un-announced anywhere apart from in a locked house or on your ship (Cantinas were safe zones too I think).

Ok interesting game mechanic but when you have spent MONTHS grinding a Jedi out only for someone to come along and kill you and 'take XP away from you and send you into debt' was a real game breaker for a lot of people.

Ok there are fans of that system and those opposed to it, fair enough, but what I am trying to say is perma-overt forced PvP is never going to do this game any favours, just speaking from experience. By all means lets see the scope of PvP widened, lets have open areas, hell even full planets, where it is a free for all, but make sure it is a choice, and make sure anyone going there knows you are overt and attackable by the opposite faction.

Doing a RvR relaunch event in the RvR bit of Ilum isn't really any different to doing one in a Warzone, you know what you're doing there, and if (somehow) you don't you can't really complain.