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Vladnar
01.15.2013 , 12:38 AM | #1
Alacrity is useful, it helps speed things up. You need quite a lot of alacrity to notice any real difference physically so you should always stack this as a last resort, once all other soft caps have been reached.

I wish to apologise for anybody unable to understand any of my previous posts on this matter which id thought had made this perfectly clear.

You can use many other mod combinations to avoid using alacrity, sometimes you may need to buy a piece just to remove one part and add to your equipment or keep one part you already have.

Alacrity is basically the least useful stat to a sorcerer that actually gives any tangible benefit.

Thankyou
The time of the Empire is now truly upon us

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AdmiralParmesan
01.15.2013 , 12:42 AM | #2
I agree, nerf operatives
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SoonerJBD
01.15.2013 , 01:03 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Vladnar View Post
Alacrity is useful, it helps speed things up. You need quite a lot of alacrity to notice any real difference physically so you should always stack this as a last resort, once all other soft caps have been reached.

I wish to apologise for anybody unable to understand any of my previous posts on this matter which id thought had made this perfectly clear.

You can use many other mod combinations to avoid using alacrity, sometimes you may need to buy a piece just to remove one part and add to your equipment or keep one part you already have.

Alacrity is basically the least useful stat to a sorcerer that actually gives any tangible benefit.

Thankyou
It isn't that others don't understand. It is that YOU do not understand how stats work and will not listen when people try to explain it to you. Alacrity does not compete with any stat a Sorc uses except surge. Once you hit 300 surge, you stack alacrity.

You keep saying that you should trade out alacrity for crit or power, but this is not possible. It is not possible because there is not a single piece of gear in the game that has BOTH power and crit. You get one or the other. I'll try to put this as simply as possible. There are three kinds of stats on non-tank inquisitor gear. Column A is endurance and willpower. You get both of those on every piece of gear. Column B is power and crit. You can choose ONE of those. Column C is surge, alacrity and accuracy (which is strictly for assassins). You can choose ONE of those as well. You keep telling people they can trade between Column B and Column C. That is wrong.

So these are your possible options for the stats on each mod assuming you realize that you do not want accuracy:
1. endurance, willpower, power and surge
2. endurance, willpower, power and alacrity
3. endurance, willpower, crit and surge
4. endurance, willpower, crit and alacrity

Dumping alacrity from your mods will only increase your surge. If you dump all your mods with alacrity for mods with surge, you will have way more surge than you need (roughly 300). Once your surge is around 300, alacrity is literally the only other option available to you that has any effect whatsoever on your DPS or healing output.

Do you get it now?

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OlosBC
01.15.2013 , 01:11 AM | #4
Sooner, the bounds of your patience are limitless. Keep up the good fight.
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Fonia - 55 Madness Sorceror
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Previously Fonia and Daygoru of Tempest server in SWG.

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SoonerJBD
01.15.2013 , 01:18 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by OlosBC View Post
Sooner, the bounds of your patience are limitless. Keep up the good fight.
I feel like a waiter trying to explain to someone that his cheeseburger comes with fries or mashed potatoes, but not another cheeseburger. And he keeps insisting he should get another cheeseburger.

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OlosBC
01.15.2013 , 01:20 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by SoonerJBD View Post
I feel like a waiter trying to explain to someone that his cheeseburger comes with fries or mashed potatoes, but not another cheeseburger. And he keeps insisting he should get another cheeseburger.
Cheeseburgers are delicious. I'd totally take another cheeseburger over some extra potatoes.
Olos - 55 Hybrid Powertech
Fonia - 55 Madness Sorceror
<Dark Fury> of Jedi Covenant
Previously Fonia and Daygoru of Tempest server in SWG.

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Vladnar
01.15.2013 , 01:56 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by SoonerJBD View Post
It isn't that others don't understand. It is that YOU do not understand how stats work and will not listen when people try to explain it to you. Alacrity does not compete with any stat a Sorc uses except surge. Once you hit 300 surge, you stack alacrity.

You keep saying that you should trade out alacrity for crit or power, but this is not possible. It is not possible because there is not a single piece of gear in the game that has BOTH power and crit. You get one or the other. I'll try to put this as simply as possible. There are three kinds of stats on non-tank inquisitor gear. Column A is endurance and willpower. You get both of those on every piece of gear. Column B is power and crit. You can choose ONE of those. Column C is surge, alacrity and accuracy (which is strictly for assassins). You can choose ONE of those as well. You keep telling people they can trade between Column B and Column C. That is wrong.

So these are your possible options for the stats on each mod assuming you realize that you do not want accuracy:
1. endurance, willpower, power and surge
2. endurance, willpower, power and alacrity
3. endurance, willpower, crit and surge
4. endurance, willpower, crit and alacrity

Dumping alacrity from your mods will only increase your surge. If you dump all your mods with alacrity for mods with surge, you will have way more surge than you need (roughly 300). Once your surge is around 300, alacrity is literally the only other option available to you that has any effect whatsoever on your DPS or healing output.

Do you get it now?

SO YOU AGREE WITH ME, thank goodness. For a minute there i thought you were a jedi whom were trying to make sorcerers weaker for some reason.

I manage to avoid near all alactiry whilst maxing the others....strange you should think this not possible, i have it on my own gear for both pve and pvp....im sorry you still think this not possible but im not here to make up for your failings in understanding or reasoning....i have the proof i wear it......i shall say no more, im living walking proof you can near avoid alacrity....WHAT MORE IS THERE TO SAY and im not flying past the soft caps either.

It is sad you feel the need to keep pestering my posts with this as i actually wear the gear you say can't be done.
The time of the Empire is now truly upon us

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Edonidd
01.15.2013 , 02:04 AM | #8
Take 5 mins and make us a askmrrobot profile of your sorc wearing whatever you really wear. Or whatever out there stuff you want. You can make it full BIS gear if you want nobody will call you on it. But show me a gear set up with 0 or even near zero alacrity without going over 300 surge.

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Vladnar
01.15.2013 , 02:26 AM | #9
36% crit
78% multiplyer

Many mods now come with either just power or crit. I WEAR THEM and don't have to prove anything, maybe just look on gtn.

enhance ive only got pow and surge on

His real statement ofc should have been get gear with higher numbers so you reach the cap quicker and have to use alacrity...which is less than 3 %......point is this isn't wow and im not a warlock and ive been told time and time and show time and time again that the speed/alacrity doesn't work the same on dots here as it did in wow and ive seen nothing to prove different and in fact moving as far from alacrity as i could i massively improved everything gameplay wise for my sorcs main.

There is a really good source somewhere on these forums that shows exactly what you gain by stacking alacrity in real terms and proves that you avoid it until all else is maxed and then take its gain, if you use alacrity on the way through to the very end game you will be losing out on far more potent and helpful stats...max everything else and then use alacrity....if you cannot agree with that i cannot help you further and will say no more.

The proof has been in the pudding for me, i struggled before and now breeze through ops and spend quite a bit of time dpsing in them too...which being a sorcs im quite proud of.

I only tried to help as i say, ill say no more.

Vladnar
The time of the Empire is now truly upon us

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Vladnar
01.15.2013 , 03:24 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by SoonerJBD View Post
It isn't that others don't understand. It is that YOU do not understand how stats work and will not listen when people try to explain it to you. Alacrity does not compete with any stat a Sorc uses except surge. Once you hit 300 surge, you stack alacrity.

You keep saying that you should trade out alacrity for crit or power, but this is not possible. It is not possible because there is not a single piece of gear in the game that has BOTH power and crit. You get one or the other. I'll try to put this as simply as possible. There are three kinds of stats on non-tank inquisitor gear. Column A is endurance and willpower. You get both of those on every piece of gear. Column B is power and crit. You can choose ONE of those. Column C is surge, alacrity and accuracy (which is strictly for assassins). You can choose ONE of those as well. You keep telling people they can trade between Column B and Column C. That is wrong.

So these are your possible options for the stats on each mod assuming you realize that you do not want accuracy:
1. endurance, willpower, power and surge
2. endurance, willpower, power and alacrity
3. endurance, willpower, crit and surge
4. endurance, willpower, crit and alacrity

Dumping alacrity from your mods will only increase your surge. If you dump all your mods with alacrity for mods with surge, you will have way more surge than you need (roughly 300). Once your surge is around 300, alacrity is literally the only other option available to you that has any effect whatsoever on your DPS or healing output.

Do you get it now?
YOU CAN BUY 27 MODS on GTN that have loads of endurance, willpower and POWER ONLY. I suggest your information is OUT OF DATE my friend.

I don't think we'll be hearing much more on this subject then. Heavens
The time of the Empire is now truly upon us