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TOR Sith characters got better characterization than Jedi?

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TOR Sith characters got better characterization than Jedi?

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TalonVII
01.14.2013 , 12:46 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Maaruin View Post
Well, the Jedi masters in the Empire stories do indeed get very little characterization and 90% is also mischaracterization.

In generel you're right, the Sith characters do get better characterization. Some Jedi Masters do have potential, though. Especially Orgus and Braga. But you only see them for one chapter, which is kinda sad.
Also, Jaric Kaedan. I'd love if he had been more important throughout the story. (Guess I'll have to write some fanfic.)

There is also Syo Bakarn. He isn't that interesting, but I still thing when it comes to charecterization he is comparable to Thanaton.
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Maaruin
01.14.2013 , 01:25 PM | #12
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Thanaton is quite annoying and ************, but his character is quite memorable.
Still, IMO Baras and Zash get more characterization. If I remember correctly, Thanaton's main character trait is paranoia.

He is memorable indeed, but so is Syo Bakarn, even though he is a very stereotypical Jedi.

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Slowpokeking
01.14.2013 , 01:43 PM | #13
Darth Jadus is still my favorite.

Some non class quest Sith are also cool, such as Severin and Gravus, too bad they are both wasted.

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sithgreyguard
01.14.2013 , 03:47 PM | #14
I like Satele shes the great great grandchild of revan and bastila or something like that. i am kinda disappointed she never leaves the jedi council.

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Slowpokeking
01.14.2013 , 04:17 PM | #15
The most interesting Jedi in the game is Jun Seros,
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jediakm
01.14.2013 , 04:50 PM | #16
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Jedi are overall boring, all they can do is either get a blaster shot into chest/lightsaber or save some unimportant folk. It is impossible to recieve characters like Baras or Malgus if you follow jedi code, because what would they do? make a huge web onf spies to in the end say: surrender, you will become our pirsoner/change yourself o ye mighty evil being!
well, in all there have been like two captures of sithlords by the jedi, and thats not always becuase the sith gave the jedi no option. for example, Count douku

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Kaedusz
01.15.2013 , 02:01 AM | #17
Goody two shoes or Marry Sue type of guy is always boring.Always the evil and the grey guy is interesting.In all franchises and fantasy/sci fi worlds.
Sith have always been more interesting than the jedi.

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Maaruin
01.15.2013 , 11:01 AM | #18
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Goody two shoes or Marry Sue type of guy is always boring.Always the evil and the grey guy is interesting.In all franchises and fantasy/sci fi worlds.
Sith have always been more interesting than the jedi.
I disagree. Jedi can be interesting. In the OT, Yoda was no less interesting than the Emperor. And Luke was also interesting, IMO as interesting as Vader. I'd even say Obi-Wan was interesting.

On the other Hand, Sauron isn't really that interesting and doesn't get that much characterization. Maul isn't an interesting Character either (in the movies).

Jedi can be done in an interesting way. (Of course, if you make the "goody two shoes" their only character trait, they aren't interesting. And evil Mary Sues like the Bounty Hunter aren't more interesting than good Mary Sues like the Jedi Knight.)
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Slowpokeking
01.15.2013 , 01:55 PM | #19
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I disagree. Jedi can be interesting. In the OT, Yoda was no less interesting than the Emperor. And Luke was also interesting, IMO as interesting as Vader. I'd even say Obi-Wan was interesting.

On the other Hand, Sauron isn't really that interesting and doesn't get that much characterization. Maul isn't an interesting Character either (in the movies).

Jedi can be done in an interesting way. (Of course, if you make the "goody two shoes" their only character trait, they aren't interesting. And evil Mary Sues like the Bounty Hunter aren't more interesting than good Mary Sues like the Jedi Knight.)
Pls add Qui Gon.

Well the thing is, a bunch of Jedi cannot create good conflict unless someone fall to the Dark Side, that's why post RotJ has to add so many imperial/dark jedi/sith/alien invasion/Abeloth whatever, but a bunch of Sith could make amazing plot.

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Oxades
01.15.2013 , 02:34 PM | #20
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Goody two shoes or Marry Sue type of guy is always boring.Always the evil and the grey guy is interesting.In all franchises and fantasy/sci fi worlds.
Sith have always been more interesting than the jedi.
I disagree, the problem isn’t that the “goody two shoes” is boring but that you need a really good writer to make a story where the “goody two shoes” isn’t boring. The “goody two shoes” or in this case the Jedi usually fall in to two story. The “I’m going to save the day” store or the “I’m falling to the Dark side” story. Both of this stores we have seen over and over again nothing new i.e. there boring. But the sith empire, that’s new. I (not being a big EU reader) haven’t seen this before, it needs to be explained. How does bunch of sith work together? Why are they working together? How are they going to react to a “the world needs to be save” situation? Can a sith “fall to the Light side”? It’s new, different, and interesting.

In fact my sith warrior is a “goody two shoes” he uses his rage and hate for the republic to protect empire and its citizens form them and their Jedi allies. He does sometimes (ok, a lot of times) have to go against Darth Baras orders to protect the citizens and do the right thing. He also know that Baras is out for himself and not the empire but being a “goody two shoes” he will not directly defy him or brake the chain of command unless he has to for the good of the empire and its citizens. I know that some people will think he’s a boring “goody two shoes” but I find playing “the good sith” to be new, different, and interesting.

And more on the main topic I think that Kira Carsen is a very good Jedi character. She a good girl, likes to help people, not likely to fall to the dark side, but she doesn’t believe in the Jedi code. She thinks that the Jedi need to lighten up, and would like to see some changes made to the Jedi order. Not in the old dark side “I’m going to lead a revolt against the Jedi council” way but in a light side “hey council, let’s look at the rules and see if they need to be updated” way. Imo she has as much characterization as Darth Baras, or Darth Zash