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SilentKitty
01.18.2013 , 03:14 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
Hello,

I'm Cory Kolek, also a UI programmer here at Bioware Austin. I originally implemented the UI Customization feature, and I'm always looking for ways to improve it. I just finished adding the option to change the scale of your buffs and debuffs within the operation, party, player, and target frames. This change has recently entered testing, so look forward to it in a future Game Update!

Woot!! Awesome This sounds so great, hope that the testing goes well!

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Fornix
01.18.2013 , 04:05 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
Hello,

I'm Cory Kolek, also a UI programmer here at Bioware Austin. I originally implemented the UI Customization feature, and I'm always looking for ways to improve it. I just finished adding the option to change the scale of your buffs and debuffs within the operation, party, player, and target frames. This change has recently entered testing, so look forward to it in a future Game Update!

Other UI related features which personally I'm wondering about:

- Shift click item GTN search (as opposed to typing item names all the time).

- GTN divided stack sale (manually dropping one item at a time, and copy pasting prices is pretty 1999).

- Target of target buff/debuff scales (you mentioned target frames, I hope these include target of target as well as those in particular are miniscule).

- Option to relocate outgoing damage + incoming heal / damage figures, as well as floating direction? As it stands they cannot be relocated from what I've seen; Personally I prefer both of them just dropping downwards from each side of my character rather than damage dropping downwards and away from my character as I move, healing upwards and away as I move and damage floating away from my target.

- Ready check function to be implemented?

- Option to separate and enlarge the energy/heat/rage/whatever bar from the character bar and enlarge it at a location of liking? Personally I prefer displaying that directly underneath my characters feet so I can centralize my eyes on my character. Without needing to clutter that area up to the extent of having an entire player frame there.

- Option to display combat logging ingame in a chat tab? It's being recorded anyway, why not give us the option to see it ingame?

- Perhaps not fully the UI field, but in terms of combat logging as well: For shielded people is there the intention to let absorbs they have show from which absorb skill and recieved by which player the absorb is done? This makes interpretting absorb logs for healer classes a lot more valuable. As currently all what can be seen is how many absorb skills a healer used, and how much a recieiving character absorbed. However, if you have 2 healers throwing absorb skills you cannot distinguish between those effects. Same goes for if the person getting absorbed has own absorb skills as well, there's no way to tell from who the absorbed effect came.

- Addition of companions to raid frames if group capacity is not yet reached and companions are allowed. It's currently a great loss not having that option in flashpoints if you're with 3 people and 1 companion. The companion just by the fact of not being in there, makes it a lot harder to deal with. Whilst the raid frames are by far preferable over the party frame.



Just from the top of my mind a few UI and related improvements I'd like to see.
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ZeroPlus
01.18.2013 , 04:34 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
Hello,

I'm Cory Kolek, also a UI programmer here at Bioware Austin. I originally implemented the UI Customization feature, and I'm always looking for ways to improve it. I just finished adding the option to change the scale of your buffs and debuffs within the operation, party, player, and target frames. This change has recently entered testing, so look forward to it in a future Game Update!

One thing that I would love to see would be the ability to flip the Unit frames 90º so they appear vertically.

You can can currently flip them 180º (so for example your life drops from left to right, instead of right to left (the default)). I would love to have the unit frame vertically so that when my (or my target's) life goes down it really does go "down".

Is something like this in the works?
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smexymage
01.18.2013 , 04:38 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
Hello,

I'm Cory Kolek, also a UI programmer here at Bioware Austin. I originally implemented the UI Customization feature, and I'm always looking for ways to improve it. I just finished adding the option to change the scale of your buffs and debuffs within the operation, party, player, and target frames. This change has recently entered testing, so look forward to it in a future Game Update!

Can you add options within the UI customisation tool to centre elements vertically and horizontally? It makes having everything lined up correctly so much easier. Having to drag elements small distances just to get them centred and lined up is really annoying.

Also an option to move an element in small steps to help with precision placement would be great.
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Glzmo
01.18.2013 , 09:01 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
I don't have much else to say on the topic than what was already said in that thread.

I can get a bit more technical on the topic though. As it was said before chat bubbles were a huge performance hit on the game when we had initially implemented them in beta. We're talking upwards of 400Mbs of video memory used on chat bubbles alone. Nameplates had the same issue.
Thank you very much for the update and actually giving us some background information. It's very much appreciated. The technical background even more so, as nobody has ever told us what exactly had been going on.
I remember the chat bubbles from beta and they weren't causing much of a performance problem for me. Then again, I had a video card with 3GB of memory back then and 12GB of system RAM and my second PC had a video card with 2GB video RAM and 8GB RAM (my current GTX 680 video cards both have 4GB and I have 32GB system RAM, not that it matters for a 32 bit application - when's the promised native 64 bit client coming anyway?). so memory wasn't much of an issue for my beta test systems.


Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
We fixed nameplates but have not had time to do the same with chat bubbles.
When do you think your team find the time to do so? An approximate timeframe or patch number would be helpful.

Do any of your team still remember how you fixed the nameplates? It shouldn't be all that hard to apply the same or modified fix for the bubbles, right? Also, at the guild summit last year your lead designer said you had fixed the performance issues chat bubbles had - whatever happened to that?


Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
If you played in beta and saw our initial implementation of them they weren't very pretty or as fully featured as we'd like them to be.
True, when I used them in beta they were very basic, but at least we had them and it was way better than not having them at all. Through them myself and others were actually able to enjoy playing, conversing and socializing with other players, which often isn't the case due to the lack of this feature in the live game.

Wouldn't it be possible to put the old chat bubbles from beta (possibly with the fix the nameplates got back int he day applied) back in as an unofficial, unsupported feature in one of the next patches that can be enabled via .ini file (like it was for some time in the last few stages of beta where the feature had already been removed as an in-game option) until you find the time to properly implement them with all the jazz? That way, people who have the computers with enough horsepower could enable and use them at least until the feature is redone properly and can be made an in-game option in the preferences menu. Of course, this alternative "inofficial" implementation would be moot if you have already slated chat bubbles to be fully implemented in the next two months or so, but if they aren't slated to be tackled for longer, then you may wish to go with this compromise.

You need to realize that chat bubbles are a feature that for socializers and roleplayers is as important as group finder is for PVEers or the warzone queuing mechanism is for PVPers. Why doesn't it have the same priority as these features enjoyed? Before launch and after we were told chat bubbles were top priority. How could it even drop off the priority list for a whole year?


Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
So, yes, we would like to implement them again, but when we do we want to do it right.
That's wonderful news. I hope you will make the time to do so in the next month or two.

That said, I feel strongly that it's high time to put this feature on top of the priority queue for GUI features and finally implement it right and hope you'll put top priority on doing so.

I also hope the team that will be working on the bubbles will pop into the Chat Bubbles: Please add them and a toggle option to enable speech bubbles for /say, /yell and /emote chat! thread and tell us of their plans beforehand so we can give you guys feedback, point out potential flaws or give you some ideas on what you could do. I really want to work with you on it.

Thank you very much once again and keep up the good work and I hope we'll see actual movement on the chat bubbles implementation front really, really, really soon!

PS.: I'd like to invite you, Cory, to reply to this post over in the Chat Bubbles: Please add them and a toggle option to enable speech bubbles for /say, /yell and /emote chat! thread and join our discussion there, as I do not wish to derail the discussion on the actual topic of the current thread any further. Thanks again!

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infedele
01.18.2013 , 09:46 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
Hello,

I'm Cory Kolek, also a UI programmer here at Bioware Austin. I originally implemented the UI Customization feature, and I'm always looking for ways to improve it. I just finished adding the option to change the scale of your buffs and debuffs within the operation, party, player, and target frames. This change has recently entered testing, so look forward to it in a future Game Update!

buff/debuff will be stand alone? moveable without hp bar and avatar picture?
please can you also add a chance to hide avatar picture? it's completely useless ^^

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Glower
01.18.2013 , 09:46 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryKolek View Post
Hello,

I'm Cory Kolek, also a UI programmer here at Bioware Austin. I originally implemented the UI Customization feature, and I'm always looking for ways to improve it. I just finished adding the option to change the scale of your buffs and debuffs within the operation, party, player, and target frames. This change has recently entered testing, so look forward to it in a future Game Update!

Awww, THANK YOU!

Also, can you make more quickbars/toolbars for us, with all these Cartel Market stuffs I no longer have a place even on my 6 bars? Please?

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Aikiyc
01.18.2013 , 11:16 AM | #68
What about in addition to resizing buffs, debuffs, HoTs and DoTs, we also get an option for differentiating our own DoTs/HoTs from other people's? It's always a pain when I drop into a warzone with 3 other operatives and can't tell which HoT/DoT stack is mine in order to refresh on time and not waste energy doing it early. :<
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01.18.2013 , 11:20 AM | #69
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9 times out of 10 these statements are made by people who watch too much TV and have never been to Texas.
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Fornix
01.18.2013 , 11:23 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Aikiyc View Post
What about in addition to resizing buffs, debuffs, HoTs and DoTs, we also get an option for differentiating our own DoTs/HoTs from other people's? It's always a pain when I drop into a warzone with 3 other operatives and can't tell which HoT/DoT stack is mine in order to refresh on time and not waste energy doing it early. :<
+1

Either separating buff/debuff stacks you own into their own little section would be great, or adding some sort of little countdown timer on the skills in your skillbar if selecting a target which has them active. Both would be ideal to help distinguish between the major pack of buffs/debuffs certain targets may have at times.
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