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Who said PvP in TOR sucks?

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Who said PvP in TOR sucks?

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Celesten
01.07.2013 , 06:57 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by -Holmes View Post
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40,000 threads, totalling 720,000 posts.
17.5% of the (English)forum posts are related to PvP. It appears to be quite popular.
What kind of logic is that?

Just because something is talked about a lot, doesn't mean it's a good thing!

I bet there is even more written about the civil war in Syria, does that mean you want to vacation there?

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Chlomamf
01.07.2013 , 07:11 AM | #12
It's not the PvP itself people hate, it's the Lolderpsmashers, the Bubble Sorcs, the Operatives that burst and kill you before you even stand back up again, the Premades that stomp PUGs, etc.

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fungihoujo
01.07.2013 , 07:19 AM | #13
And all of it is negative. No- having 40k negative threads doesn't mean this is a good thing.

It is true indeed that no matter what state pvp is in- people will complain.

However- you know what you see on the forums of games that have something good about the pvp? You see guides on how to play the classes/specs in pvp- in this game, you see guides on what classes not to play ever, and any guides on how to play are always about 'how to counter class X', where class x is usually a marauders, and the guide is written by someone who only plays class x, and is in fact not a guide on how to beat them- but a not so subtle 'don't nerf me bro!' thread.

You see guides on how to gear- not on these forums.

You see discussion on warzone strategies, and on RWZ compositions- well not here you don't.


My point is- there is no healthy pvp conversation going on here- you don't even see videos oftten- nothing but negativity.

Why are people still here? Well- I play on a server that usually has 3 instances on both fleets, Nar Shaddaa, and at least one full one on Coru/DK/Tython/Korriban. We are well populated- but we get half hour WZ pops regularly off of the peak hours.

Before 1.2, my server had half that and could get 20 minute pops at 6am- because people were pvping, and often at that.

We stick it out because- there's other things in the game many people find entertaining - some people still hope the pvp in this game is going to make a come back - most classes do have one spec that is decent in normal WZs, even if it's not a role you want to do- there's not a whole lot of alternative when it comes to mmorpgs; GW2 is terrible and people are pissed off about it, LotRO has never been a big pvp game and it shows, WoW is slowly failing and the pvp is getting steadily worse there.

Simply put- if you want to play an mmo, your choices aren't exactly stellar for pvp right now, and not everyone wants to do FPS or MOBAs.


The main thing I think that both keeps people here and keeps people posting is that so many people did think this game's pvp was full of promise and moving in a good direction before 1.2- so they know BW is capable of doing something right.

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Exilim
01.07.2013 , 07:27 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Celesten View Post
What kind of logic is that?

Just because something is talked about a lot, doesn't mean it's a good thing!

I bet there is even more written about the civil war in Syria, does that mean you want to vacation there?
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Bloodcharged
01.07.2013 , 07:27 AM | #15
My biggest gripe with this games PVP is how tanks can out damage dps specs which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Another thing is they need to move quite a few of these powerful spells further up in trees to avoid a majority of these hybrid BS specs. But again we all know, Bioware is never going to nerf there Precious Warriors.

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rob_y
01.07.2013 , 08:04 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Chlomamf View Post
It's not the PvP itself people hate, it's the Lolderpsmashers, the Bubble Sorcs, the Operatives that burst and kill you before you even stand back up again, the Premades that stomp PUGs, etc.
Are people still complaining about Operatives? You'd think the fact that no one wants to bring a DPS Operative into a rated match would convince people they aren't so powerful.
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-Holmes
01.07.2013 , 08:18 AM | #17
Yet each and everyone one of you play PvP. No matter how much you complain, you can't deny how hypocritical all of you act. You play it, talk about it, hate it, and continue playing it.

You hate those premades, you despise them and blame BioWare for not making a separate queue, then you join your own premade. You complain about the gear gap, but you eventually grind your way to War Hero, then when the new players can get the good gear a lot faster, you complain cause it's too easy, and they don't have to grind like you.

So in the end, if PvP is so bad, why do you guys play it? Please give me a good answer, if you can.

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MusicRider
01.07.2013 , 08:23 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Bodums View Post
Just to comment the thread.
And the last thing I wanna bring is my frustatrition on how bioware totally break the game in 1.6 by bringing the gear to new 50s... first of all you ding and are ready to do operation all whitout to have a change do know your class.
And now you can just run into a warzone and defend a base more easyly then before. you dont have the try to survie style because of the gear...
Having harversted wh gear in the old system with 3 chars I say that closing the gap gear was the best move for pvp. It helps the occasional players to get decent gear. And also no more whines. Finally ppl cant hide behind gear.

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underpantsgnomes
01.07.2013 , 08:33 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Bodums View Post
arena game for 2-5 player a time.
Go play WoW. Please no arenas in SWTOR. Arenas pretty much killed PvP for me in WoW.
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Chlomamf
01.07.2013 , 08:44 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by rob_y View Post
Are people still complaining about Operatives? You'd think the fact that no one wants to bring a DPS Operative into a rated match would convince people they aren't so powerful.
I personally don't give two hells about Operatives, I don't see them often so I can't really complain, however I have seen people complain about them.