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Guild bank Scammed..!


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caimm
01.06.2013 , 12:04 PM | #1
A player took all the mats and money from our guild bank he came to mumble with a name my friend and i trust my friend but it appears that it was somebody else but i didnt know that so he said can you invite my Alt to the guild cause my main is banned he said and i believed him and said ok i will invite you and then he asked for some mats to lvl his toon so he said can i take some xp boost from the guild bank i was doin The Black Hole meanwhile so i gave him the rank to get acces to the guild bank and then he took evrything out of the guild bank....Well this massage might not help us but i can help somebody elses guild here so i am warning you guys dont trust anybody unless you know him very good!

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TUBIG
01.06.2013 , 12:20 PM | #2
thxs for letting us know

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Gyronamics
01.06.2013 , 12:31 PM | #3
You know you can cap withdrawals and limit rank access to certain pages...

You basically opened your bank to some random noob and he rolled you.

There's trusting people and then there's being naive enough to think giving a monkey the key to the banana plantation won't end in tears.
Notwired @ Not Good Enough @ TRE

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undies
01.06.2013 , 12:41 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Gyronamics View Post
You know you can cap withdrawals and limit rank access to certain pages...

You basically opened your bank to some random noob and he rolled you.

There's trusting people and then there's being naive enough to think giving a monkey the key to the banana plantation won't end in tears.
From the sound of your post, you seem to be insinuating that the OP purposely gave a stranger access to his guild bank. He was socially engineered, tricked into thinking the scammer was someone he knew. He didn't purposely do this.

I blame Bioware 100% for removing the original post warning others of this issue. If people are not aware of the scam, they have no way to defend themselves against it. If Bioware isn't willing to come out and explain to people some common sense measures and not to trust anyone flat out, then don't remove a post that explains the scam and leave people knowledgeable about the situation and prey to the scammer.

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Gyronamics
01.06.2013 , 12:53 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by undies View Post
From the sound of your post, you seem to be insinuating that the OP purposely gave a stranger access to his guild bank. He was socially engineered, tricked into thinking the scammer was someone he knew. He didn't purposely do this.

I blame Bioware 100% for removing the original post warning others of this issue. If people are not aware of the scam, they have no way to defend themselves against it. If Bioware isn't willing to come out and explain to people some common sense measures and not to trust anyone flat out, then don't remove a post that explains the scam and leave people knowledgeable about the situation and prey to the scammer.
No no, the issue is his BS detector is set too low and he's far too believing of words on a screen.

There is nothing anyone can do without spending a great deal of unskippable tutoring to prep people for scams. The kind of stuff you would skip because it's just a load of words on a screen and won't give any immediate benefit.

A post on a forum is read by people who want to spend time reading it and of course they have to be the type who visits that part of the forum where it is.
Notwired @ Not Good Enough @ TRE

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undies
01.06.2013 , 12:55 PM | #6
The scam is a great scam. It needs to be detailed and notified to people, just as would be done for phishing attempts. People can be victim to it and ignorant of the danger.

Belitting the guy for it is just kicking him while he's down, serves no purpose unless people are making up for a lack of something.

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Commissar_Omega
01.07.2013 , 12:13 AM | #7
Coming from sandbox games where this behavior was a legitimate means of fighting other guilds, I have to say I'm ever so slightly amused by this, if only for the nostalgia. Sorry.
Komissar Omega
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RebelArch
01.07.2013 , 01:45 AM | #8
Really? This is being complained about in a PvP forum? There is more than one way to compete and get beat. No one in here plays Eve? Characters rip each other off all the time, while the players are talking as friends over chat. You never played munchkin, stabbing friend's character's in the back, while having fun with said friends? Never played poker and lost a hundred dollars to a guy you have fun watching football with?

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Skyhigh
01.07.2013 , 02:01 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by RebelArch View Post
Really? This is being complained about in a PvP forum? There is more than one way to compete and get beat. No one in here plays Eve? Characters rip each other off all the time, while the players are talking as friends over chat. You never played munchkin, stabbing friend's character's in the back, while having fun with said friends? Never played poker and lost a hundred dollars to a guy you have fun watching football with?
Huh? Your examples are horrible. I would like to apologize for your parents failing you. You are totally lost on so many levels. I feel bad for the life you must live all around. Looking to screw people in a guild isn't pvp. The worst part is you think you actually make good sense....lol, that's just sad.

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amnie
01.07.2013 , 07:36 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by RebelArch View Post
Really? This is being complained about in a PvP forum? There is more than one way to compete and get beat. No one in here plays Eve? Characters rip each other off all the time, while the players are talking as friends over chat. You never played munchkin, stabbing friend's character's in the back, while having fun with said friends? Never played poker and lost a hundred dollars to a guy you have fun watching football with?
'hey it's done elsewhere, this is legit'


herp. there's a difference between friendly rivalry and obviously scamming people. I guess I should just give people my credit card info, too, and hand out keys too my house. if they steal from me, it's 'only stuff', after all. and no, I'm not gonna argue the 'worth' of something forever just because it's 'only' virtual. there are more than enough people out there who will argue that 'real life' items aren't actually worth anything, either. not forgetting to mention that games like EvE are the perfect example that virtual items indeed have a value and they even changed the EULA of said game because people started suing each other... and don't even let me get started on games like Second Life...


on top of that I pick my friends wisely, and I'd never play poker with hundreds of dollars worth. we play for monopoly money. if I want to lose money I go to a casino or spend it on something like concert tickets with said friends so we can all enjoy ourselves without accusing people of cheating afterwards.