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Rogoo
01.06.2013 , 10:22 AM | #51
Bioware and delivering on promises ?

ROFL.
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Malastare
01.06.2013 , 11:11 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Rogoo View Post
Bioware and delivering on promises ?
More like: People thinking "We'd like to add..." is a promise.

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bibobpipop
01.06.2013 , 11:15 AM | #53
I really don't get why people still pooint at month-old threads and say "back then you said this and that will happen, so it must happen exactly that way". Can't they understand that plans change when the whole situation changes?

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Cupelixx
01.06.2013 , 11:40 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by bibobpipop View Post
I really don't get why people still pooint at month-old threads and say "back then you said this and that will happen, so it must happen exactly that way". Can't they understand that plans change when the whole situation changes?
No, they can't. Pure and simple, people manipulate the words and facts in their own heads. Either to see something they want to see, or try and twist it and force the other side to deliver. At the same time, they fail to understand that most of the time (even in groups), they have no leverage over a company like this. Companies like this are usually very carefully to word things exactly as quoted in the OP so that the true interpretation is "maybe". Sometimes people let things slip, but so far I have seen nothing presented that could be construed as "promised". Even if they did promise a feature and didn't implement it, what are you going to do? Think of the TOS, EULA, and their team of lawyers before you answer that one.

Plans changing on the dev side was exactly my next point. Back before WoW had it's first expansion, they would post about things "on the horizon". I can think of a verbatim quote: "The Emerald Dream is shaping up nicely". Again, we're talking 8 years ago and there is still no major Emerald Dream content patch because they went on to other things. MMO development is very dynamic and people just don't understand that. What's priority today may not be priority tomorrow. We're talking about an organization with finite resources. If they were physically able to do exactly everything that people ask for, they probably would. They can't. That's why we have major bugs from several game updates ago which are still unfixed. That's why we have requested features that aren't in the game yet.

The simple truth is, all we have from them is "maybe", and there are about 1,000 other "maybe" answers that need to be looked at and prioritized. Again, that could be next week. It could be "never". There is no way to know. And Bioware is not under the requirement nor the inclination to reveal this right now. Anything else is wishful thinking at best. That's all there is to it.
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SirMannii
01.06.2013 , 11:45 AM | #55
I want Pazaak now. I dont care if they promised or not. Just add it and a lot ppl will be happy, especially me!

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Ratajack
01.06.2013 , 11:49 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
Thats the problem with all the non beta testers posting now

Pazzaak was promised as a high priority item shortly after release in Closed beta

The quote the OP using is the far to common "take back" that happens around here from EA

Sorry no quote, those forums were locked up and removed

But anyone that was in closed beta and followed those threads (there were many of them as they have continued to be the most requested feature for this game since) knows it was "PROMISED" to the closed beta testers.

*incoming "But they changed their minds after they took everyone money excuses"

/shrug

The fanbois will defend them till the end of time
The middle of road people (me) will say yes its a broken promise but what else is new
The haters will hate

But a disclaimer after the fact doesnt change the facts about an original statement and promise made to the closed beta testers. Remember, we were under a NDA so we couldnt repost the promise for all. Doesnt change what was said
As a closed beta tester myself who frequented the forums, I do not ever remember seeing a promise of pazaak being added as a high priority or otherwise. That doesn't mean they didn't promise it, only that I never saw or simply don't remember that promise. That being said, if no one can link the thread or threads in which they promised pazaak, then claims of pazaak being promised have as much validity as if I claimed that EA promised everyone a YT-1300.

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DigitalDreamz
01.06.2013 , 11:51 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by bibobpipop View Post
I really don't get why people still pooint at month-old threads and say "back then you said this and that will happen, so it must happen exactly that way". Can't they understand that plans change when the whole situation changes?
What a ridiculous thing to say. I'm truly shocked at the length some of you take to defend actions such as this.

Where else can this work?

Can you in college NOT hand an assignment and say "I was working on something else Plans change!"

Can you tell your boss who's expecting your reports to NOT give him anything and say "I was working on something else! Plans change!"

The absurdity I read on these forums are unbelievable! Plans change for everybody, the good can still deliver. The rest well...looks as if they've ended up here.

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Imhotep
01.06.2013 , 11:57 AM | #58
Good god. Nothing in that statement says they are adding Pazaak. OP seriously go play another game...please. Every one of your threads is f'ing crying about something.

That statement says we would like to at some point....in English that translates to MAYBE.
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bibobpipop
01.06.2013 , 12:01 PM | #59
When the teacher says "hand in the assignment then and then", of course the pupil issupposed to deliver.

But we customers aren't in the teachers-role here for the developers, but their bosses are.

And if they say they have to work on other content now, it doesn't matter what was said almost one year ago.

Their priorities are on other parts of the game atm. I'm not saying that they shouldn't listen to what the customers want, but to stubbornly insist they keep some "promises" made an eternity ago is just...

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01.06.2013 , 12:01 PM | #60
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it's not on our immediate horizon, and we'd most likely do it at a point where we want to make a large splash.
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