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Analysis of the smashdemic

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Analysis of the smashdemic

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CharterMonkKent
01.04.2013 , 08:53 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinxDuff View Post
Why do you even comment threads like this? Seems you are in denial.
I'm confused why you think tanks have the hardest hitting attack in the game. You don't even know what you are complaining about. So many complaints in this game come from people who have no idea what they are talking about. Hence the
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01.04.2013 , 08:55 AM | #12
WAIT!


How do I get 5 stacks of shockwave again?? I want 5 stacks!!
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01.04.2013 , 08:59 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by CharterMonkKent View Post
I'm confused why you think tanks have the hardest hitting attack in the game. You don't even know what you are complaining about. So many complaints in this game come from people who have no idea what they are talking about. Hence the
Please tell me what hits harder than smash.

The highest other abilities I have seen is my buddies Maul for 6.9k and a sniper for about the same.
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01.04.2013 , 08:59 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by madcappah View Post
WAIT!


How do I get 5 stacks of shockwave again?? I want 5 stacks!!
Sure, smash when you hit 4 stacks using force crush, then get one with force crush's last tick. 5 total.

Deflect the argument away from the real issue, though.
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CharterMonkKent
01.04.2013 , 09:12 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinxDuff View Post
Please tell me what hits harder than smash.

The highest other abilities I have seen is my buddies Maul for 6.9k and a sniper for about the same.
A tank spec jugg is not a rage spec jugg. So no, a tank isn't getting the hardest hitting ability in game.

For reference tank sins/shadows (with some DPS gear) can hit 5k on poorly geared toons with spinning strike.
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01.04.2013 , 09:15 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinxDuff View Post
This is the bottom line:

Th hardest hitting ability in the game is from a tank, its instant, its an aoe, its an auto-crit, it has passive armor pen, it has a low CD.

How can anyone say with a straight face that this is OK?
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DarkSaberMaster
01.04.2013 , 09:15 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinxDuff View Post
Please tell me what hits harder than smash.

The highest other abilities I have seen is my buddies Maul for 6.9k and a sniper for about the same.
Take a look in the other Smash QQ thread. There are screenshots of an Assassin who got a 10k+ hit. Guess they should be nerfed too huh? And FYI, my Sentinel isn't a tank.
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01.04.2013 , 09:19 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkSaberMaster View Post
Take a look in the other Smash QQ thread. There are screenshots of an Assassin who got a 10k+ hit. Guess they should be nerfed too huh? And FYI, my Sentinel isn't a tank.
Comparing a single target attack to an AoE lol nice try
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JustinxDuff
01.04.2013 , 09:20 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by CharterMonkKent View Post
A tank spec jugg is not a rage spec jugg. So no, a tank isn't getting the hardest hitting ability in game.

For reference tank sins/shadows (with some DPS gear) can hit 5k on poorly geared toons with spinning strike.
Tank class not spec.

Sins are single target, no comparison. Look at the disparity in class popuations, why do you think so many people play warriors now? Hmm I wonder...
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DaedalusV
01.04.2013 , 09:22 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by madcappah View Post
WAIT!


How do I get 5 stacks of shockwave again?? I want 5 stacks!!
Well. I would really like to give you that (provided you will need those 5 to get the same amount of crit damage as you currently do with 4)

Tinkering with the amount of stacks needed for full effect might be a great way to down-tune Rage/Focus.

It's funny though that people pounce on the only factual error he made.

As long as smash spec rules supreme, I'll be rolling blind bubbles. There's a number of ways to counter smash.

1) roll a bubblehealer
2) roll a sniper/slinger
3) roll a pt/vg
4) roll a stealther
5) get in a premade with good pvpers
6) roll a smasher yourself (can't beat 'em? Join 'em!)

Alot of people complained that bubblespam was/is OP, when 1.4 hit, and should be changed, I agree to a degree (don't hit my sage too hard with the nerfbat again pls)
Quite a few people are complaining rage/focus is over the top and OP, I agree to a degree (Remember pre 1.2 sage/sorc AoE instaproc hybrids and double-proc healers, we took way too big a hit on our nerfs, I don't wish the same for other classes.)

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeochins View Post
Many people think smash is over-tuned. People arguing otherwise enjoy holding their crutch and are pointless to argue against. Where did smash go wrong? Well lets analyze some of the aspects of smash.

--- snip--- (see OP for details.)
So what is the issue with smash?
The OP presents a summary of the package offered by the focus/rage spec, furthermore he aknowledges the fact that it is offered in a shared tree making it available for one QUARTER of the total amount of classes in the game.

The issue is through his presentation quite self-evident if one has an ounce of reading comprehension.

--> The pure amount of people able to almost instantly be able to play the spec plus the inherent substantial benefit you get from playing it AND stacking it in warzones makes it overrepresented, overused and quite too effective to allow for an enjoyable warzone experience for people NOT playing the knight/sith warrior base class
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