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Star Wars: The Old Republic – State of the Game #2

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Star Wars: The Old Republic – State of the Game #2
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EcrirTwyLar
01.03.2013 , 09:09 AM | #301
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkkChaos View Post
Sounds good! Looking forward too the updates...hopefully fixing a few annoying bugs too...

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Fixing bugs should be their highest priority. This game is getting more and more and they can't seem to get a handle on them.

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Beniboybling
01.03.2013 , 09:10 AM | #302
This is very encouraging. Its good to see that BioWare thinks the game is going well as a lot of negativity on the forums has led me to believe otherwise. I look forward to Update 1.7, looks like there finally going to fix Illum (even though I don't know what went wrong with it in the first place, its taboo on general chat ). And I'm really looking forward to Makeb. And SGRs, can't say I'm interested in this but its nice to see BioWare responding to something that a lot of the community has been asking for, I honestly thought it was never going to happen.

Onwards and upwards BioWare!

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Insidion
01.03.2013 , 09:20 AM | #303
Quote: Originally Posted by deecee View Post
Funny thing is SGR is just enough to put the final nail in this games coffin. We have been fine without it, now I expect bad press and another reason for players to quit the game.

Why add something so controversial when you should be trying to get more players in the game?

Just another example of management prioritizing the wrong game elements when they should be looking into adding things into the game that make current players happy and wanting to keep subscribing.
Why would the game get bad press over SGR? Makes no sense to me; apparently you are unaware that SGR is available in other EA titles, most notably their Sims series?

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EcrirTwyLar
01.03.2013 , 09:23 AM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalDreamz View Post
So far with this guy's 'state of the game' it's turning into all talk. Talk is cheap, bugs are still crawling ALL over me in game. Performance is still an issue. C'mon man stop patting your own back and actually start fixing!
I agree 100%.
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalDreamz View Post
I'd say get people OFF THE FLEET! Expand each planet's size to include a heroic zone dedicated for 50s.

Do something about performance man. How about dialing down the view distance. I don't need to see the very ends of a planet.
Leave my viewing distance alone. I'm getting 100fps right now. Sure you can tune down the default setting, but don't lower it across the board.
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Make crafting worth something again! Right now with planet comms leveling up there is NOOO point in crafting. Hitting 50 and getting drops also overwrite crafting professions.
I agree.
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalDreamz View Post
Want world pvp? Simple just get Reps and Imps closer to each other while they level, do dailies or quest. We'll take care of the rest.
I agree with this as well.
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalDreamz View Post
Group space combat OFF RAILS! Have objectives and we as a team complete it.
Ughh... While I do agree with this, I see little hope for their space game. It is a complete failure and I would rather they didn't touch it for now. Fix the rest of the game first and then give us decent space content similar to JTL at a later date after everything else is fixed.
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalDreamz View Post
Put in pvp brackets. Get rid of the 10 - 49 bracket. Don't do server pvp queues. Merge all servers into one queue.
I say no to this. Leave the 10-49 alone and spend some time on the 50 bracket only. That is what should be perfected.
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Let us guide our own ships to the planet instead of point and click. Expand on our ships. Let us have MUCH more to do in there.
See what I said above in regards to space content.
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Write more scripts for NPCs. Let them do SOMETHING! Move around at the very least.
I would like to see us be able to respec or change the advanced class of our NPC companions. That way we could have our favorite companion fill the roll that we want them to.
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I threw generalities in there. I could be VERY specific if asked to but these I don't think are reasonable. Looking at what other MMOs have done with their game this isn't asking for much.
I would like to see an option for the group finder that would let us queue for lower level flashpoints, but would downgrade our effective level to match the content. Sort of like how it works now with pvp. Then give us commendations for doing so. This would provide more people to group with at lower levels.

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Alec_Fortescue
01.03.2013 , 09:31 AM | #305
Okay. Let's see. sgr and hood toggle both promised. Sure. Hood toggle was even given a specified eta (next big patch after 1.2).

Now sgr demanders get what they want for only 10 quid (and it's gonna involve so much other stuff!). It's gonna be available to each of their characters. All of us who wanted hood-down robes have to pay 15 quid per character for armor sets which are not even legacy bound. Which takes more work? Animating and voicing homosexual npc or making a hood down variation of existing sets?

I feel discriminated against.
*Best Dressed Jedi of 2014* http://mmo-fashion.com/tor-fashion-contest-results/

Almost 3 years old and there are still no iconic / classic / traditional / prequel-style (pick any!) Jedi robes in the game! How come?

Also how about letting players wear the robes that are already in the game but not accessible to them?

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=720547 - Cool compilation of Jedi outfits worn by NPCs.

Don't let your artists' work go to waste, Bioware

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drfirewater
01.03.2013 , 09:36 AM | #306
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalDreamz View Post

1)So far with this guy's 'state of the game' it's turning into all talk. Talk is cheap, bugs are still crawling ALL over me in game. Performance is still an issue. C'mon man stop patting your own back and actually start fixing!

2)I'd say get people OFF THE FLEET! Expand each planet's size to include a heroic zone dedicated for 50s.

3)Do something about performance man. How about dialing down the view distance. I don't need to see the very ends of a planet.

4)Make crafting worth something again! Right now with planet comms leveling up there is NOOO point in crafting. Hitting 50 and getting drops also overwrite crafting professions.

5)Want world pvp? Simple just get Reps and Imps closer to each other while they level, do dailies or quest. We'll take care of the rest.

6)Group space combat OFF RAILS! Have objectives and we as a team complete it.

7)Put in pvp brackets. Get rid of the 10 - 49 bracket. Don't do server pvp queues. Merge all servers into one queue.

8)Let us guide our own ships to the planet instead of point and click. Expand on our ships. Let us have MUCH more to do in there.

9) Write more scripts for NPCs. Let them do SOMETHING! Move around at the very least.

I threw generalities in there. I could be VERY specific if asked to but these I don't think are reasonable. Looking at what other MMOs have done with their game this isn't asking for much.
You wrote alot but some of it isnt bad currently.And some your just flat out wrong about.

I numbered your comments so my replies can be matched rather then re quoting each seperately.But some i agree with strongly.

1) He stated that they are working on bugs ... and since launch there has been patches all the time addressing bugs of any serious nature .... as a programmer myself i know its not always easy to find out why your code isnt working properly especially when its someone elses poor code effecting yours without you knowing it.

2)The problem with getting people off fleet (which by the way happens you just dont see it) is they still have to WANT to leave. How many still do there BH and Section X dailies? i know i do them on 5 toons every week for BH coms as well as HM FPs and Ops .... there is alot to do if you have alts ..which is something they have stated from before launch they want you to have multiple characters.

3) trust me you dont see to the end of the planet and draw distance is adjustable. but what they do have to fix is all the crash to desktop stuff. especially during raids.

4) Crafting in ALL professions isnt the issue.... its SOME of them that are left out .. artifice right now is awesome same with cybertech. They just have to find a way to make synthweaving armstech and armormech worth crafting again. I have all crafting professions cept armstech and i can tell you there is nothing wrong with any of the crafting professions that can craft dread guard items atm.

5) I think the big problem is only a small amount of people really want World PVP .. i rolled on a PVE server for a reason ... if i want to pvp i will go in a warzone ... that being said ... if the pvp flag system wasnt so busted i would say go all SWG on them and let people flag pvp on and off with a smaller time between them.so you can decide your sick of getting powned and want to go back to doing dailies or what have you without harassment. 5 mins is dumb. Also give people a reason to have fights and not trade kills ... that is the problem with illum .. no reason because when there was a reason people cheated it for easy gear.

GEAR .... biggest problem with PVP esepecially on PVE servers .... you want to get gear so you can pvp but people get all bent when you have nothing but dread guard gear when your trying to earn it. If you could buy expertise kits with BH coms so that you could start it or if you choose the cash instead of recruit gear that the recruit gear box should still be purchaseable for that same price .... i would gladly pvp more if i could pay the 350k and get a set of gear that would be better for pvp now. at the time 350k each for 5 characters ment i got good PVE armor instead ....

6) I agree for group space they need to go with a battlefront style gameplay .... but i dont see group space combat for a long time .. not until capital ships and possibly battlefront 2 / cox style guild vs guild pvp.
fingers crossed myself.

7)I agree with cross server queues for PVP and HM FPs and GF ops runs. Queues are a pain no one likes them and they fustrate people especially dps who wait hours just to watch the queue line for 2 mins as someone fell asleep waiting for queue. Cross server will remedy that to some degree at least.

8) Expand ships agree ... open space flight exploration DISAGREE COMPLETELY its what killed SWG for many people ... we want to get to quests faster not give people a reason NOT go get there or to take there sweet time while others are waiting on them. Raid travel IN RAID is already too long ... now you want people to FLY THEMSELVES to the planets .. might as well just kill the game now if that is the case. Space exploration does not need to exist in this game because its a GROUND BASED MMO. Space is a mini game the way it should be ... asking to imporve that mini game by adding multiplayer and warzone like space is cool ... free exploration will just take more people out of queues and make queue times longer not cause they are doing something but because they are aimlessly wandering around space.

9) meh .... story will come with new levels ... cant see them re scripting current stuff just cause. Its counter productive would rather developers and writers spend there time on new content. Personally
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Insidion
01.03.2013 , 09:40 AM | #307
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVengeant View Post
That's because 14000HP people playing against 24000Hp people in full EWH gear is not something alot of people want to do. Unless you are sadomasochistic. Most of my Guild being among the people not interested in that. We are all fed up with 50+ PVP. It's not enjoyable AT ALL. Period. The PVP is broken and utterly unfair. I gave up on 50+ PVP.

pre 50 PVP is a blast however.
THIS.

PvP is horribly broken at 50, and not much better sub-50.

My ideas:

1) Implement cross-server PvP. We're tired of fighting the same team over and over and over.

2) Seperate sub-50 pvp into 2 brackets - 10-25, and 25-50.

3) Add a 30 minute cooldown before queuing again for anyone who leaves a match in progress.

4) Fix class balance. Fix class balance. Fix class balance.

5) Did I mention fixing class balance?

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drfirewater
01.03.2013 , 09:46 AM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
This is very encouraging. Its good to see that BioWare thinks the game is going well as a lot of negativity on the forums has led me to believe otherwise. I look forward to Update 1.7, looks like there finally going to fix Illum (even though I don't know what went wrong with it in the first place, its taboo on general chat ). And I'm really looking forward to Makeb. And SGRs, can't say I'm interested in this but its nice to see BioWare responding to something that a lot of the community has been asking for, I honestly thought it was never going to happen.

Onwards and upwards BioWare!
Negativity is what forums are for ..... never read game forums for positive reinforcement. People go on forums to complain ... and in the rare occasion to read new update info or look for hints and tips. Only the smallest % of players actively post on forums and only the smallest % of them say something meaning full. The rest are only there to troll them for there opinions. This is why MMOs never succeed for long because developers have yet to learn that the majority of the player base ignore forums .. that the people posting on forums don't speak for all of us .. and that if you change things based on forum complainers ALONE your going to alienate the majority of players who actually spend more time PLAYING then Complaining.
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markcymru
01.03.2013 , 09:47 AM | #309
Thank you, Jeff, for giving us the update on SGRs that we've been waiting and asking for !

And thank you, Bioware, for stating so definitively that SGRs are a part of SWTOR !

And thank you for putting SGR options in Makeb, a significant gesture to show that the SotG wasn't just words !

Thank you !
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EcrirTwyLar
01.03.2013 , 09:47 AM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by drfirewater View Post
1) He stated that they are working on bugs ... and since launch there has been patches all the time addressing bugs of any serious nature .... as a programmer myself i know its not always easy to find out why your code isnt working properly especially when its someone elses poor code effecting yours without you knowing it.
Don't make excuses for them. There are bugs in the game that have existed since beta. Not only are these not getting fixed, they are creating new bugs all the time. There seems to be more bugs now than there was at the end of beta.