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An in-depth look at: The Teachings of Odan-Urr- Jedi Code

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An in-depth look at: The Teachings of Odan-Urr- Jedi Code

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Phoenixbowman
02.02.2013 , 09:57 PM | #11
Orgus Din did not get that memo. Because what he said about a Jedi not having ANY emotion or ANY passion directly contradicts what Odan-Urr taught.

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Aurbere
02.02.2013 , 10:47 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenixbowman View Post
Orgus Din did not get that memo. Because what he said about a Jedi not having ANY emotion or ANY passion directly contradicts what Odan-Urr taught.
If you're going to listen to anyone, listen to Odan-Urr. He is one of the wisest Jedi Masters of all time.

Now, what we have here is a severe case of misunderstanding the teachings of Odan-Urr. He relied on the wisdom of the Jedi to actually see the true meaning of the Jedi Code. After his death, the Code became a set of rules. Which is exactly the opposite of what he wanted it to be. The Jedi Code is a path to mastery of The Force.

Orgus Din (along with many Jedi) only took the Code at face value. They saw the words and took them too literally. They didn't use the wisdom of the Jedi to see the true meaning. Very few Jedi could actually do this.
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Phoenixbowman
02.02.2013 , 11:07 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
If you're going to listen to anyone, listen to Odan-Urr. He is one of the wisest Jedi Masters of all time.

Now, what we have here is a severe case of misunderstanding the teachings of Odan-Urr. He relied on the wisdom of the Jedi to actually see the true meaning of the Jedi Code. After his death, the Code became a set of rules. Which is exactly the opposite of what he wanted it to be. The Jedi Code is a path to mastery of The Force.

Orgus Din (along with many Jedi) only took the Code at face value. They saw the words and took them too literally. They didn't use the wisdom of the Jedi to see the true meaning. Very few Jedi could actually do this.
Ah okay. Thank you for clearing that up.

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Aurbere
02.02.2013 , 11:15 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenixbowman View Post
Ah okay. Thank you for clearing that up.
No problem. Aside from being historical and informative, clearing up misconceptions is what these threads started out as.
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Beniboybling
02.03.2013 , 05:35 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
No problem. Aside from being historical and informative, clearing up misconceptions is what these threads started out as.
Lol, yeah. Like that thread on Revan...

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Aurbere
02.03.2013 , 12:03 PM | #16
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Lol, yeah. Like that thread on Revan...
/sigh

Yeah.
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Leonick
02.03.2013 , 12:27 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
The Jedi Code was created as a guide for a Jedi to fully master The Force. While many Jedi study the Jedi Code, few actually understand it. Which led to the Jedi Code turning into something that Odan-Urr did not intend (I blame Atris, personally). This 'transformation' caused confusion in the Jedi ranks, and the Code became a major tool for the Sith to turn Jedi to the Dark Side.
I'd like to blame Odan-Urr... The Jedi code the precedes his revisions says exactly what it means while his is less clear, funny considering how he supposedly did the revision to simplify it any make it less confusing. Of course, that's lore chronology I think, in our world his version of the Jedi Code existed first didn't it?

Very good job on the thread though. Far too many take the code at face value. I see you've got quite a collection of other threads, I'll have to check them out.
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02.03.2013 , 01:07 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Leonick View Post
I'd like to blame Odan-Urr... The Jedi code the precedes his revisions says exactly what it means while his is less clear, funny considering how he supposedly did the revision to simplify it any make it less confusing. Of course, that's lore chronology I think, in our world his version of the Jedi Code existed first didn't it?

Very good job on the thread though. Far too many take the code at face value. I see you've got quite a collection of other threads, I'll have to check them out.
The Jedi Code was turned into rules by the Jedi Order. Odan-Urr's revision was meant to be a path to mastery of The Force. That meaning, as well as the true meaning of the words of the Code, were lost as time went on.

I would appreciate it if you didn't post on the Revan thread. Not my best work

And thanks for reading. You can find all of the threads in the Index in my sig.
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Aries_cz
02.04.2013 , 08:56 AM | #19
Well, this is a very interesting interpretation, much similar (but much better written) to what I concluded while studying the original version of the Code:
Emotion, yet Peace
Ignorance, yet Knowledge
Passion, yet Serenity
Chaos, yet Harmony
Death, yet the Force

While reading this over and over, I came to a conclusion that unlike in revised version by Odan-Urr, this Code does not directly state anything about "forbidding" (as many usually interpret it) something (the absence of "There is no" parts).

So, while the updated Code is easier to understand, it is also much more prone to misinterpretation.
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LanceCorporalDan
02.04.2013 , 02:27 PM | #20
Hey Aurbere,

I would just like to thank you for all of you very insightful and interesting threads! I myself am a lore fanatic of lord of the rings and am just recently getting into the star wars lore. It's always a pleasure reading and learning from your threads. I find myself like a young jedi listening to the lessons and lectures of a wise jedi master hahaha.

anyways thanks for the threads man!!! Keep it up

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