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Aikes_Itso
12.27.2012 , 08:09 AM | #1
This is the only MMO i have ever played that doesnt allow for mods. Curse gaming and many other sites provide mods for many games out there that make the experience a LOT more enjoyable. SWTOR has decided to put its customers on rails and this may be good for something, I dont know what, but because of it I find the galactic market horrible in this game. I dont want to spend my time looking up 30 different items to compair prices just so that I can sell my crap, I want something that will check prices and allow me to undercut the other sellers. I want my time to be spent effficiently, not irritated because I have to quest to make money or because I have to do searches to sell some item for 400 credits.... and speaking of the market....since I cant have my own vendors why cant my items be on the market longer?

I havent sold anything on the market until today and I just got reminded of why I dont. The market mechanics are horrible. Absolutely primitive in todays MMO gaming market. In MMOs that don't fair much better for trade markets, at least you are usually able to right click + shift (or something similar) to add the name of the product into the search engine for the market....not in this game. In this game you have to type in the product name to compair prices...

Number one.... that I have to sell crap on a market means that I already have to waste time to get the itmes....because mind you, I am only here to PvP....I have to date NEVER done a Flashpoint because I dont care to...not my idea of fun. With the pathetic state of the market, I now also have to waste more of my time in order to use the market....because in Blizzard's infinite wisdom they have decided to block the ability for private individuals to create mods for this game. It makes the game irritating. I dont play video games to be irritated.

Blizzard, please get off your rump and create a few small provitions...like you did with allowing users to mod their own interface.....and stop jerking me around on my free-to-pay time in your game. I pay a sub, give me perks that matter. A different looking speeder or clothing....junk. Stupid cake-eater crap that does zero for me.

P.S.

Your market system really bites. Cartel coins for xp...good...cartel coins for image designed junk = emo. Allow scripting and mods because you apparently fail at interface and user friendly interaction.

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Zaxem
12.27.2012 , 08:12 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Aikes_Itso View Post
This is the only MMO i have ever played that doesnt allow for mods. Curse gaming and many other sites provide mods for many games out there that make the experience a LOT more enjoyable. SWTOR has decided to put its customers on rails and this may be good for something, I dont know what, but because of it I find the galactic market horrible in this game. I dont want to spend my time looking up 30 different items to compair prices just so that I can sell my crap, I want something that will check prices and allow me to undercut the other sellers. I want my time to be spent effficiently, not irritated because I have to quest to make money or because I have to do searches to sell some item for 400 credits.... and speaking of the market....since I cant have my own vendors why cant my items be on the market longer?

I havent sold anything on the market until today and I just got reminded of why I dont. The market mechanics are horrible. Absolutely primitive in todays MMO gaming market. In MMOs that don't fair much better for trade markets, at least you are usually able to right click + shift (or something similar) to add the name of the product into the search engine for the market....not in this game. In this game you have to type in the product name to compair prices...

Number one.... that I have to sell crap on a market means that I already have to waste time to get the itmes....because mind you, I am only here to PvP....I have to date NEVER done a Flashpoint because I dont care to...not my idea of fun. With the pathetic state of the market, I now also have to waste more of my time in order to use the market....because in Blizzard's infinite wisdom they have decided to block the ability for private individuals to create mods for this game. It makes the game irritating. I dont play video games to be irritated.

Blizzard, please get off your rump and create a few small provitions...like you did with allowing users to mod their own interface.....and stop jerking me around on my free-to-pay time in your game. I pay a sub, give me perks that matter. A different looking speeder or clothing....junk. Stupid cake-eater crap that does zero for me.

P.S.

Your market system really bites. Cartel coins for xp...good...cartel coins for image designed junk = emo. Allow scripting and mods because you apparently fail at interface and user friendly interaction.
i assume you mean bioware not blizzard i honestly like the fact they don't have mods i hated that about wow
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AsheraII
12.27.2012 , 08:20 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaxem View Post
i assume you mean bioware not blizzard i honestly like the fact they don't have mods i hated that about wow
I think it's pretty obvious what game OP was playing last month. And I must say, I'm extremely happy with the absence of mods as well.
BIOWARE could perhaps improve the GTN interface, as well as add a few other features, but I'm glad they left out the mods and hope those will never be implemented either.
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ElitehunterDS
12.27.2012 , 08:21 AM | #4
Hey lazy guy,
If you lack the motor skill to move your hands a bit to type a name go back to Pandaland, not everyone need a crutch for everything they do.

Signed a GTN powerseller.

P.s. WoW was killed by mods making the the game so trivial, it wasnt worth the attention of most of the Adult players.
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Jacen_Starsolo
12.27.2012 , 08:26 AM | #5
OP, tell these people what games NOT named WoW you played that allows for mods.

My experience is the opposite actually. WoW was the only one that had a ton of mods in an MMO. Now single player games, yes a ton of them allow it. That's why Bioware's other 2 franchises I touched in the last few years are better on PC than console.

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Eldrenath
12.27.2012 , 09:11 AM | #6
I hate mods. Hate hate hate them. I really hope they don't come to SWTOR. Of course I really don't think they will--as far as I know, WoW is about the only MMO that has mods.

The GTN could stand to be much, much better though. The best auction house interface I ever saw was in Rift--you could drag and drop items right into the search box to see what the going rate was for something you wanted to sell, for stackable items it displayed both the total price AND the price per unit. You could post items at a single price for a stack or a price per unit. I'd love to see the GTN have the functionality of Rift's auction house. The GTN isn't awful, it just isn't good.

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SickTag
12.27.2012 , 09:20 AM | #7
It's EA, that is why no mods

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DawnAskham
12.27.2012 , 09:25 AM | #8
Interesting to see all the hate on mods.

I love mods, and the reason is simple. In most games with mods, the community and mod developers do a better job of coming up and delivering UI customizations and enhancements than the game developers.

Thus in games with mods I am able to make my UI minimal (dropping all the superfluous skinning, unused elements, and stuff like portraits) while highly functional by being able to highlight information that is important to me (my procs, buffs, ability cooldowns and specific debuffs).

On the GTN front, with mods we'd most likely already have the ability to search and sort significantly more efficient than today while being able to easily determine an items worth without having to maintain out of game spreadsheets.

Of course some people like a few posters in this thread would not want such mods (or improvements by Bioware) as they live online and spend all day camped at the GTN searching over and over and cannot stand the thought that a normal player could come to the GTN and in a few clicks actually find something or have a good idea of its value.

Of course I'd like to see mods restricted through the API such that they could not automate game play. That type of mod is not something I'd like to see added to SWTOR.

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Urael
12.27.2012 , 09:29 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by DawnAskham View Post
Interesting to see all the hate on mods.

I love mods, and the reason is simple. In most games with mods, the community and mod developers do a better job of coming up and delivering UI customizations and enhancements than the game developers.

Thus in games with mods I am able to make my UI minimal (dropping all the superfluous skinning, unused elements, and stuff like portraits) while highly functional by being able to highlight information that is important to me (my procs, buffs, ability cooldowns and specific debuffs).

On the GTN front, with mods we'd most likely already have the ability to search and sort significantly more efficient than today while being able to easily determine an items worth without having to maintain out of game spreadsheets.

Of course some people like a few posters in this thread would not want such mods (or improvements by Bioware) as they live online and spend all day camped at the GTN searching over and over and cannot stand the thought that a normal player could come to the GTN and in a few clicks actually find something or have a good idea of its value.
While I agree with you on your comments about the GTN, I too hate mods.

I hate the fact that in "WoW" for instance that to "play effectively" now one "must have" mods (or so it would seem). This is the impression one gets when attempting to do most things with "guilds". Don't have the right mods and you won't get a slot to raid, etc. I find mods to be a crutch. Play the game as intended.

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Aikes_Itso
12.27.2012 , 09:30 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
I think it's pretty obvious what game OP was playing last month. And I must say, I'm extremely happy with the absence of mods as well.
BIOWARE could perhaps improve the GTN interface, as well as add a few other features, but I'm glad they left out the mods and hope those will never be implemented either.
Your assumption is wrong, it was a slip of the though process to say Blizzard. I havent played World Of Whatever in two years, but I do feel that game has a lot bettter mechanics in relation to its trade market.

Apparently some dont like mods, and I respect that you dont. I dont know why, but okay. As for myself, I have a real life...family and friends to do things with that arent in a fictional world. Time is the one thing you can never get back so if mods reduce wasted time in a video game then I am all for them.

What most people dont care for are mods that are scripts doing everything for other players. Face it, a lot of people are just tards when it comes to scripting or addon mods....and of course they hat them. Give me a better galactic market and I can live with the rest of the bugs.

All of this is my opinion, so flame on if you are bored or if you have some relevant information to add or your own personal opinion, let it be heard.