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We have more players than GW2?

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alyris
12.26.2012 , 01:42 PM | #61
I don't have any numbers, but if you look at the GM and see how many Cartel items are for sale. This game is FAR from dying. Then look at the starter zones and there are 2 instances with over 100 each, I would say this game is doing QUITE well.
I would say from a pure income point of view, this has got to be one of the highest grossing MMO games out there (obviously WoW with its huge subscriber base is #1). I would dare say this game is #2 from a gross margin point of view.

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Mazikeen
12.26.2012 , 01:47 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by dalin View Post
From my limited time on GW2, I felt that the game was pretty and had alot of fluff in the sense of things to see and listen to.

Once you got past the fluff (puzzles, jumping, vista points) it was just a boring PvE game with a world pvp endgame. Not even sure there's anything else to do atm. You can only attack a keeps walls for so long before you get bored of it.
This. GW2 is a fantastic game, but it's lack of raids (which is good, really) and it's crap PvP leaves it in a hole after you gear up. They tried introducing new dungeons, but I quit right before then, they were also adding a gear grind.

But for a B2P game, it's very nice and worth having on your computer. SWTOR simply has more 'traditional' endgame than GW2
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lokozar
12.26.2012 , 02:00 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by sstanks View Post
a. you're right it wasn't the game for me. I was hoping for something more like GW1 but in a real MMO form. I did not get that. Instead i got Warhammer 2.0 another door attacking simulator.

b. I kept it safe on my end. The problem was THEY got hacked and didn't tell everyone right away

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/in...-hacked-985019

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/m...cked-20120910/

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-Security-ever

even the guys at Penny Arcade got hacked

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/09/26

http://penny-arcade.com/2012/09/26

Yeah guess it was just me and poor security. The fact that you could change the password of an account with out verification is a HUGE security problem.

But i'm not mad. I moved on from the game. I don't spend my time on the forum of a game I don't like bashing it. Why waste my time with something I don't enjoy.
Have you even read these sources?

'"Hackers have lists of email addresses and passwords stolen from other games and websites, and collected through spyware, and are systematically testing 'Guild Wars 2' looking for matching accounts," ArenaNet staff wrote on this wiki page tracking the issue.'

You know what this means? It means, you've created a GW2 account with the same credentials you used with another service. That's plain and simple actual fault. It's known for many years now, that no one should do this. They just have to crack one website, steal the data and try them on common services like Yahoo, Google, MSN, MMOs and so on. All the programms games and services you used were compromised, if they exhibited the same login data - not only your GW2 account.

Of course these people can change your password, if they also have access to your E-Mail account with said information.

That's hardly Anets fault or any other company's, ... it's yours.
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Jett-Rinn
12.26.2012 , 02:08 PM | #64
I loaded up GW2 saw the horrible voice acting and super lame "Dynamic Quest" and uninstalled. I'll stick with TOR thank you.
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Marmerus
12.26.2012 , 02:32 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by alyris View Post
I don't have any numbers, but if you look at the GM and see how many Cartel items are for sale. This game is FAR from dying. Then look at the starter zones and there are 2 instances with over 100 each, I would say this game is doing QUITE well.
I would say from a pure income point of view, this has got to be one of the highest grossing MMO games out there (obviously WoW with its huge subscriber base is #1). I would dare say this game is #2 from a gross margin point of view.
But this game is now F2P and should be compared to other F2P games. And then there is lots of asian MMOs that is MUCH larger than WoW is and ever will be.
Take Perfect World and their 50 million players back in 2009. That is a number blizzard can only dream of.
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LeonBraun
12.26.2012 , 02:39 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by dalin View Post
From my limited time on GW2, I felt that the game was pretty and had alot of fluff in the sense of things to see and listen to.

Once you got past the fluff (puzzles, jumping, vista points) it was just a boring PvE game with a world pvp endgame. Not even sure there's anything else to do atm. You can only attack a keeps walls for so long before you get bored of it.

Oh and I hated the combat system, always felt like I was waitting on CD's with my Necro. I also hated the fact that there was no pure healer spec's as that's what I enjoy doing in PvP. DPS bores me after a while.

No clue on how it's doing though, but I doubt it's doing badly.
True... You take out Tank/Heal classes and that alienates a good chunk of the player base... Keep in mind here, it's not the game companies, that invented Tanks/Heals, it was the players, and the MMO companies picked up on this and backed it up. It's natural for people to want to play different roles, and keeps the game fun.

I've done all 3 roles and continue to, it keeps the game fresh.

GW2 is a pretty game... But it's incredibly dull.
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Fraeblood
12.26.2012 , 02:41 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Marmerus View Post
But this game is now F2P and should be compared to other F2P games. And then there is lots of asian MMOs that is MUCH larger than WoW is and ever will be.
Take Perfect World and their 50 million players back in 2009. That is a number blizzard can only dream of.
NO It should not be compared. For one, SWTOR has a Sub, and GW2 does not. And the gameplay is almost 100% different. Apple and Oranges. Comparing them just because they are both video games does nothing but continue useless conversations. but it is nice to see someone take notice to the whole market. So many just look at the US market and stop. The asian market makes the US market look like a grain of sand in the scheme of things.

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LeonBraun
12.26.2012 , 02:42 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by alyris View Post
I don't have any numbers, but if you look at the GM and see how many Cartel items are for sale. This game is FAR from dying. Then look at the starter zones and there are 2 instances with over 100 each, I would say this game is doing QUITE well.
I would say from a pure income point of view, this has got to be one of the highest grossing MMO games out there (obviously WoW with its huge subscriber base is #1). I would dare say this game is #2 from a gross margin point of view.
Yep.

The game is fine player wise and has no issues at all... If EA/BioWare have enough sense to start supporting with some meaty content right now, they will be in good shape, and getting better to come.
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sstanks
12.26.2012 , 02:52 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by lokozar View Post
Have you even read these sources?

'"Hackers have lists of email addresses and passwords stolen from other games and websites, and collected through spyware, and are systematically testing 'Guild Wars 2' looking for matching accounts," ArenaNet staff wrote on this wiki page tracking the issue.'

You know what this means? It means, you've created a GW2 account with the same credentials you used with another service. That's plain and simple actual fault. It's known for many years now, that no one should do this. They just have to crack one website, steal the data and try them on common services like Yahoo, Google, MSN, MMOs and so on. All the programms games and services you used were compromised, if they exhibited the same login data - not only your GW2 account.

Of course these people can change your password, if they also have access to your E-Mail account with said information.

That's hardly Anets fault or any other company's, ... it's yours.
no you didn't read it. The problem was that they could change YOUR password WITH OUT YOUR EMAIL.

I use a different password for every game as everyone should. If they get your email, just your address nothing else. They can use that and force their way in ie by using programs that generate passwords. GW2 had NO LOCK OUT. Meaning they just try and try again till they figured out the password.

Once they had the password they could change your password WITH OUT having access to your email. Arena nets SYSTEM DIDN"T SEND VERIFICATION EMAILS FOR CHANGE OF PASSWORD. Now your account is 100% locked out because ARENANET doesn't even have basic security protocals that even Hotmail has.

It has nothing to do with fansites or using the same password.


(all caps are not out of anger, they are just there so I make sure you see them before you post again with out actually reading)

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well
12.27.2012 , 02:42 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by spectreclees View Post
Very good argument, I like how you pointed out it's flaws in great detail.
lol Target cease fire