I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

Will there be new Flashpoints and Operations that is equal to the new level cap or are they going to rework the old Flashpoints and Operations to match the new level cap forcing players who don't want to buy this "Expansion" to buy it to be able to play the game?

As a subscriber, we pay for access to the servers and all content, but once this thing comes out, we are no longer allowed access to all content without paying extra.

It's just bad business even though people will pay for it. If enough people pay for it and EA/BW is laughing all the way to the bank, I'm afraid subscribers will start being charged for patches. But what's .99 cents right?

What's all the fuss about really... you pay a few euros and get an entire expansion. Perhaps not so big an expansion as you are perhaps used to from WoW, but still big enough to be worth paying a few euros.

What we know we will get so far:
- new planet Makeb ( my guess is that this planet will be huge, since you are expected to level 5 levels here?)
- increased level cap to level 55
- new species: the Cathar
- 2-seat speeder
- new pets
- new vanity items (new color crystals etc.)
- new flashpoints
- new gear/ mods

Possible?:
- new companion? some leaked information on the internet lists the Ewon as a new obtainable companion
- Nightmare mode for TFB ?

I don't know if you've read the new State of the Game by Jeff Hickman, but he talks about retooling "elder game" content so that it is still relevant at 55, essentially powering up the mobs in FP's and OP's so that they are now relevant for L55. Now he doesn't say if that means adding something like another tier of difficulty on to them so you can do them at either 50 OR 55, but my first instinct would be to say... now.

Also, how they work the brackets for PVP has the potential to completely ruin PVP for ever. Imagine if 55 is its own bracket and 1-54 is now the Bolstered bracket. Can you imagine some L54 in fully auged EWH fighting a L10? GG.

They'll probably keep:

1 - 49

Add:

50 - 54

and add:

55

My guess.

[QUOTE=KyleDanva;5685283]What's all the fuss about really... you pay a few euros and get an entire expansion. Perhaps not so big an expansion as you are perhaps used to from WoW, but still big enough to be worth paying a few euros.

What we know we will get so far:
- new planet Makeb ( my guess is that this planet will be huge, since you are expected to level 5 levels here?)
- increased level cap to level 55
- new gear/ mods

I erased the things that it doesn't actually come with. So far they have no announced any of that other stuff so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to put it in the game. Actually I'm not sure that they CAN add that stuff as how would they justify making F2P people spend $20 for Ops and FPs that they can't actually go in to without ANOTHER unlock. That would be super shady.

No matter how they slice it up its going to be terrible. It means that instead of having 100% of the players in 2 separate queues, we now have them in 3 separate queues. And what about ranked? Is ranked going to be L50 AND L55 or just one or the other or both? It means that we're going to have far fewer people in queue than before. I don't see how as a player anyone can say that putting this content behind a paywall will be good for the health of the game.

Just off the top of my head I'd have to say that 10% of people will just quit over this whole ordeal, seems to be the magic number from the other big PR hiccups. Another 20% will just not buy it as that seems the magic number of f2p'ers in my warzones. This means the likely number of L55's available to do content with will be lower than the original number of people on server before the second round of server merges. Yech.

It comes down to the devs piss poor communication skills..and the attitude that they dont have to actually advertise..the suckers will buy anything star warsish

lol yep

Ive never had an issue with queues in either bracket so one more tiny segway bracket wont hurt. Ranked will probably shift to 55 only, I dont see much point in 2 brackets of ranked since everyone will be busy lvling 50-55 and farming regular comms to care about 50 ranked anymore

As has been pointed out before, it's not 3 times the size it's more like ten times the size.

Take a planet like Tat, Hoth, etc. These planets have 150-180 quests TOTAL.

Then you look at WotLK which added 1700 quests, 850 unique quests per faction.

Then you add on the fact that WotLK added 3 raids, 7 dungeons, 3 battle grounds, an open world pvp zone, a new class, new profession, new crafting recipes for all the professions, new tiers of gear, etc.

And then Cata was even bigger than that, about 30% bigger.

And now MoP just as big.

Now I understand it's not fair to compare those Expansions to RofHC because MoP took nearly two full years to develop and cost $40 at release. But BW is the one making the comparison by calling their product an expansion. If they don't want them to be compared then they shouldn't call them the same thing lol. WotLK, Cata, MoP all came with about 10x more content than RotHC and cost about $30 more.