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I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

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I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

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kijthae
01.02.2013 , 03:31 PM | #341
-They havent even announced what does new expansion bring.It may contain its intended content plus makeb which was announced to be free before.It may feature lots of new and exiciting things like fully decorable starships , new classes , new crew skills , new cartel stuff , new warzones , operations...

-$10 and $20 price is a preorder price. People think a regular patch will be selled to them for a cheap price.However noone knows its actual price when its released.They will charge it for $30-50 on the first release just like any other mmo game expansion.

-Expansion announces 1 new planet.We dont know how big it is. One planets means as small as quesh and it means a playable area of total of voss , tatooine , belsavis too. Again we have to wait before we whine.

So please do not whine for info based on speculations at least let them announce it , play beta then whine

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GalacticKegger
01.02.2013 , 03:40 PM | #342
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
What does that have to do with anything you asked me or how I responded? You asked me "Why do people continue to come to the forums and complain, why not just take your money and go?"

My response is that what you are presenting is a false dichotomy, I can continue to play the portion of the game I enjoy without giving them any more money whatsoever, RotHC has nothing in it for me, it looks like a shoddy waste of time. If they offer a content update that I might want to buy, then perhaps I will buy it. In the mean time I will play the content I want for free. Sooooo what was the point of your big old TLDR post above?
I too enjoy the game as it stands now. As for the xpac I've already paid for mine because it's an expansion. It's not a $40 expansion where the game was reinvented and added Pandas on a floating turtle. It's just a $10 expansion with new content and some announced but to-be-expounded upon upgrades. That was the principle behind my purchase choice. Were 10 bucks capable of putting my livlihood in jeopardy then I wouldn't consider paying it.

The "taking your money and go" part were your words. I openly welcome anyone who isn't trashing the neighborhood. As for the xpac, no one outside of Bioware's walls knows enough to accurately evaluate anything more than what they've published - including its price-to-content value. If someone chooses to get their panties in a wad based on speculation, then that's their choice. But smearing the walls with it is a bit ... pubescent. That was pretty much my point.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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A_nonymous
01.02.2013 , 03:59 PM | #343
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
I too enjoy the game as it stands now. As for the xpac I've already paid for mine because it's an expansion. It's not a $40 expansion where the game was reinvented and added Pandas on a floating turtle. It's just a $10 expansion with new content and some announced but to-be-expounded upon upgrades. That was the principle behind my purchase choice. Were 10 bucks capable of putting my livlihood in jeopardy then I wouldn't consider paying it.

The "taking your money and go" part were your words. I openly welcome anyone who isn't trashing the neighborhood. As for the xpac, no one outside of Bioware's walls knows enough to accurately evaluate anything more than what they've published - including its price-to-content value. If someone chooses to get their panties in a wad based on speculation, then that's their choice. But smearing the walls with it is a bit ... pubescent. That was pretty much my point.
I don't think anyone is making any comments based on speculation other than those who are claiming the expansion pack will indeed have WZs, FPs, etc.... Most of the detractors are simply looking at the announcement of one planet and 5 levels and are unimpressed.
Gunwalker Legacy FTW.

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mothear
01.02.2013 , 04:02 PM | #344
Quote: Originally Posted by Farstrider View Post
As with all expansions, and large content updates, information will be released piecemeal, until 'adequate' internal testing and QA has been completed enough to ensure the features are ready to make the FAQ, whilst it is cool to know what is coming, its suicide to announce features that are'nt set in stone, we've seen just how much negativity that can generate in the community, both just and unjust.

I am looking forward to the expansion as I enjoy the game, so for me the £8.00 or so will be well spent.

Information will come when it comes, certainly a full feature list will be available nearer the live date.

Games I've played don't ask you to pay until they've done this part in bold

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GalacticKegger
01.02.2013 , 04:15 PM | #345
Quote: Originally Posted by A_nonymous View Post
I don't think anyone is making any comments based on speculation other than those who are claiming the expansion pack will indeed have WZs, FPs, etc.... Most of the detractors are simply looking at the announcement of one planet and 5 levels and are unimpressed.
Speculation is a 2-way street. "Stay tuned for more information coming soon - Over the next few months we will reveal more exciting new features!" means just that. Those who are speculating that one planet and an additional 5 levels are all we have to look forward to can be taken just as seriously (or not) as those who are speculating what more exciting new features will bring.

Those speculating that one planet and an additional 5 levels are all we have to look forward to are either conveniently ignoring that exciting new features part or vehemently downplaying its significance, if not outright arguing (lol) that it's a waste of time to discuss. Kinda goes against the spirit of open discussion tbh.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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A_nonymous
01.02.2013 , 04:24 PM | #346
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Speculation is a 2-way street. "Stay tuned for more information coming soon - Over the next few months we will reveal more exciting new features!" means just that. Those who are speculating that one planet and an additional 5 levels are all we have to look forward to can be taken just as seriously (or not) as those who are speculating what more exciting new features will bring.

Those speculating that one planet and an additional 5 levels are all we have to look forward to are either conveniently ignoring that exciting new features part or vehemently downplaying its significance, if not outright arguing (lol) that it's a waste of time to discuss. Kinda goes against the spirit of open discussion tbh.
We'll reveal more exciting features is marketing BS. That's not just a BW thing, that's an any company thing. Generally speaking if you're trying to get people to pre-order you lead with all the information you can. You don't just say, "This is great. Buy it."
Gunwalker Legacy FTW.

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GalacticKegger
01.02.2013 , 04:42 PM | #347
Quote: Originally Posted by A_nonymous View Post
We'll reveal more exciting features is marketing BS. That's not just a BW thing, that's an any company thing. Generally speaking if you're trying to get people to pre-order you lead with all the information you can. You don't just say, "This is great. Buy it."
Then there is nothing that anyone in these forums (or at EA or BW for that matter) can do to convince you otherwise. Your mind has already decided, courtesy of a small teaser released months in advance, that the xpac sucks even before specifics have been released. As you wish. I for one will simply look forward to (at the bare minimum) an additional 5 levels worth of content with 2 factions worth of story. For a paultry $10 anything more is a cool bonus.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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darklordpotter
01.02.2013 , 05:11 PM | #348
Quote: Originally Posted by kijthae View Post
-They havent even announced what does new expansion bring.It may contain its intended content plus makeb which was announced to be free before.It may feature lots of new and exiciting things like fully decorable starships , new classes , new crew skills , new cartel stuff , new warzones , operations...

-$10 and $20 price is a preorder price. People think a regular patch will be selled to them for a cheap price.However noone knows its actual price when its released.They will charge it for $30-50 on the first release just like any other mmo game expansion.

-Expansion announces 1 new planet.We dont know how big it is. One planets means as small as quesh and it means a playable area of total of voss , tatooine , belsavis too. Again we have to wait before we whine.

So please do not whine for info based on speculations at least let them announce it , play beta then whine
Well it's theoretically possible I suppose bloody unlikely but possible. However the planet has been confirmed as about the same size as the larger planets in the game so don't expect anything bigger than an existing planet.

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TheSkate
01.02.2013 , 07:18 PM | #349
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
http://www.swtor.com/rothc?intcmp=so...t-t-us-rhp-005

Look at those key features, do you see PVP anywhere in there? Those are the features of the game so far announced by BW. Now you can say "but they might add flashpoints and ops and warzones and new OPVP areas and etc etc etc."

But here's the thing, if they even thought for a second they'd be able to actually put or even WANTED to put that stuff in there, they'd be advertising it like CRAZY to make this content update sound like a real expansion. The fact that you can already preorder it but those things are not up there as features that you will get in exchange for your money, tells me they have no desire or ability to include them.
Well, since they just added a new PvP war zone two weeks ago what are you complaining about again? They have added two war zones (or was it three?) via content patches and will probably continue to do so in the future.
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TheSkate
01.02.2013 , 07:23 PM | #350
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
Oh and for everyone saying "it's only $10, what are you poor?"

You can buy ET the video game for Atari 2600 right now for the same price as one month's sub and the new "expansion" if it's so little money why don't you guys all go out and buy it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-2600-G...item56511206e6
Edited since you cannot actually delete even your own post.
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