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I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

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I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

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SWaotc
01.01.2013 , 06:25 AM | #211
Get in touch with the federal trade commission/trading standards.

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Thaed
01.01.2013 , 06:25 AM | #212
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
Except that he does NOT say it's free. That's the interviewer voicing his assumptions. James Ohlen does say a few times that it's not going to be an expansion, well, obviously they changed their mind and decided to turn it into an expansion after all. A small one, and because of that, noticably CHEAPER than your avarage game expansion, but they turned it into an expansion. I don't call that backflipping. I call that upgrading.
And I will be more than happy to agree with you when they tell us what they're now doing differently and when that is on the level of an actual expansion. Bonus points if they do so before Jan 7.


They won't.
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Kalfear
01.01.2013 , 02:58 PM | #213
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
Except that he does NOT say it's free. That's the interviewer voicing his assumptions. James Ohlen does say a few times that it's not going to be an expansion, well, obviously they changed their mind and decided to turn it into an expansion after all. A small one, and because of that, noticably CHEAPER than your avarage game expansion, but they turned it into an expansion. I don't call that backflipping. I call that upgrading.

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Let me guess

You put peanut butter on a slice a bread and someone else puts jam on a second slice

and you still think its only a peanut butter sandwich

Cause THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR CLAIMING

You want one person to lay it all out for you in a nice formated version

Figure it out

EA STATEMENT #1: Subscribers will never be charged for content updates
EA STATEMENT #2: Makeb is a Content update, not a expansion

1+1 really does = 2

Oh and if you didnt know the LONG STANDING STATEMENT of #1, stop arguing as you are NOT in full control of the FACTS.

To quote a different poster from you side of the issue (in this very thread)


Quote: Originally Posted by LarenDahe View Post
How do you people function on the planet Earth when you fail so badly at ... .
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it

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Goretzu
01.01.2013 , 03:11 PM | #214
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitblade View Post
That's the problem, they can't do it.
They still don't know how much content will be gutted from this "expansion" to pad the next update that hits.

If you been here long enough you know that Makeb was to be 1.5 and have Cathar. F2P came and wiped that away and it became 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 and the foreseeable 1.7 and maybe even 1.8 before we finally get Makeb
Yeah that is a possiblitity.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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ztee
01.01.2013 , 03:12 PM | #215
This is such a non issue, i dont know why people are getting upset.

Im just glad that servers are full again, people are still playing and NEW content is being delivered.

Some people are just hard to please i guess. If you are so stuck up on the principles, then why are you still here?

EDIT: On top of that, if you are enjoying the game still - whats the problem? This is real first world problems right here .....

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Goretzu
01.01.2013 , 03:14 PM | #216
Quote: Originally Posted by Forgon View Post
In all honesty, I remember Makeb just being mentioned as future content... I think some people have the weirdest memories and misconceptions about future content and then get really bent out of shape when things don't turn out that way. The only definite fact we were told that didn't turn out true, to my knowledge, was that we were told it would be coming this year, which it won't.

Only thing that bothers me about Makeb is that I know too little about it to want to pre-order. The details are scant and the content we are given sounds bare minimum for even a cheap expansion.
And that it would be free, of course.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Thaed
01.01.2013 , 07:02 PM | #217
Quote: Originally Posted by ztee View Post
This is such a non issue, i dont know why people are getting upset.

Im just glad that servers are full again, people are still playing and NEW content is being delivered.

Some people are just hard to please i guess. If you are so stuck up on the principles, then why are you still here?

EDIT: On top of that, if you are enjoying the game still - whats the problem? This is real first world problems right here .....
Simply put, I'd like to enjoy it more and I'd like to continue enjoying it beyond finishing the class stories (and even those are beginning to drag with me doing the filler content between them; the only reason I'm still subbed is so my exp gain isn't kneecapped).

An addition of a new game feature, simple or otherwise (*cough*Pazzaak*cough*), would go a long way to restoring faith with me that the game will continue to evolve, rather than stagnate by following the exact same op/fp/wz formula for endgame.

Also, it's worrying that this is considered an expansion, yet there is no expansion to our class stories, I guarentee that's something that would get people to resubscribe, if only for a month.
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SithVeritas
01.01.2013 , 07:12 PM | #218
Though I agree with everyone Thaed said and share the POV most of the people on this forum have, I already pre-ordered ROTHC.

Why?

ROTHC is going to a manifestation of what BioWare envisions for this game, without anything to hide behind this time.

No layoffs, no mysterious 4/5 month silence, no F2P conversion that takes up resources, no other BS.
My point is, this time they have no excuses to throw in our face if this turns out to be utterly dissatisfying.
It's the last chance I'm giving them.

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Monoth
01.01.2013 , 07:17 PM | #219
The first thing you need to come to terms with is when the Doctors left they took the heart and soul of Bioware with them.

It was the Doctors vision that all content updates or expansions be part of the monthly fee. Unfortunately adding Biowares great story telling and cinematics with dated MMO mechanics was a big mistake and subscriptions plummeted. I think most will agree the story aspect of SWTOR was great, but using MMO mechanics that are 10+ years old just makes the game extremely boring outside of your class story.
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile

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SithVeritas
01.01.2013 , 07:18 PM | #220
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
The first thing you need to come to terms with is when the Doctors left they took the heart and soul of Bioware with them.

It was their vision that all content updates or expansions be part of the monthly fee. Unfortunately adding Biowares great story telling and cinematics with dated MMO mechanics was a big mistake and subscriptions plummeted. I think most will agree the story aspect of SWTOR was great, but using MMO mechanics that are 10+ years old just makes the game extremely boring outside of your class story.
I agree I guess.

But I love Star Wars enough to give them one last chance with ROTHC. If it's just more of the same, I'm out.