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did you buy the expansion? are you gonna buy it? do you want to wait?or never buy it?

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did you buy the expansion? are you gonna buy it? do you want to wait?or never buy it?

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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 05:33 PM | #301
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5 dolars and 10, there is not a big different
Step on Earth and step on teh Moon.

Not much difference

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LUCASCASADEIS
12.22.2012 , 05:36 PM | #302
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Step on Earth and step on teh Moon.

Not much difference
yeah there is. 100000000000000000000 km, lol idk but there is lol

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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 05:49 PM | #303
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yeah there is. 100000000000000000000 km, lol idk but there is lol
But but but, its a STEP, its the SAME.

Guess you figured that one out now Those are MILES apart

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JeramieCrowe
12.22.2012 , 06:44 PM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
No, what was supposed to be in Makeb update was leaked, so we know exactly what they temselves called non expansion content update (that was of course free to subscribers)

Makeb
Level cap raise
OP
FP

and we also know that it was in production before the game launched and that it was supposed to be here before end of 2012.

What we also know is that its 4-6 months late, that it was renamed to expansion to justify price tag (and for shady marketing purpose) and what they announced so far isnt even what was supposed to be in non expansion content update.
It was always going to be an expansion. The mistake they made was saying it was "probably going to be free" at E3. However, the people that point that out usually leave out the fact that a form was filled out at E3 asking players what they would be willing to pay for such an expansion.

Guess what? The majority (who were subscribers) actually chose $9.99. Guess what they went with for subscribers? If you want to point fingers and blame anyone, don't point them at BioWare...
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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 06:46 PM | #305
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
It was always going to be an expansion. The mistake they made was saying it was "probably going to be free" at E3. However, the people that point that out usually leave out the fact that a form was filled out at E3 asking players what they would be willing to pay for such an expansion.

Guess what? The majority (who were subscribers) actually chose $9.99. Guess what they went with for subscribers? If you want to point fingers and blame anyone, don't point them at BioWare...
So, what part of them saying NON EXPANSION CONTENT UPDATE you didnt understand rofl

Too bad we have video evidence these days and dont have to rely on hear-say

And can you tell us how many subscribers went to E3, just to get the picture?

And how do you know that majority choose 9,99 eh?

And why would they base that on some miniscule number on E3 when they have means for much detailed and accurate metrics?

And what about those 2+ million that left?

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JeramieCrowe
12.22.2012 , 06:51 PM | #306
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
So, what part of them saying NON EXPANSION CONTENT UPDATE you didnt understand rofl

Too bad we have video evidence these days and dont have to rely on hear-say
I'm not denying (read my post again, slower this time) that they said things they shouldn't have. What I'm saying is that there is also plenty of evidence that shows that an "expansion" was precisely on their minds, for the sole reason that Makeb and everything might turn out to be bigger than they planned.

And it has.
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JeramieCrowe
12.22.2012 , 06:52 PM | #307
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
So, what part of them saying NON EXPANSION CONTENT UPDATE you didnt understand rofl

Too bad we have video evidence these days and dont have to rely on hear-say

And can you tell us how many subscribers went to E3, just to get the picture?

And how do you know that majority choose 9,99 eh?

And why would they base that on some miniscule number on E3 when they have means for much detailed and accurate metrics?

And what about those 2+ million that left?
And what about the subscribers that are buying despite all the hangers-on to verbology?
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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 06:54 PM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
I'm not denying (read my post again, slower this time) that they said things they shouldn't have. What I'm saying is that there is also plenty of evidence that shows that an "expansion" was precisely on their minds, for the sole reason that Makeb and everything might turn out to be bigger than they planned.

And it has.
Ooooh, insults, yeah, that is great.

So, in your opinion, when you think of expansion, you specifically call it NON EXPANSION.

ahahahahahahahhaahha, try harder

And no, theres absolutely no mention of expansion until it popped out for pre-order.

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And what about the subscribers that are buying despite all the hangers-on to verbology?
There wasnt enough subscribers to keep the game afloat, even less will buy this content update.

So yah, its a bulls eye

But i guess those few that went to E3 and chose 9,99 will be happy, amiright?

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JeramieCrowe
12.22.2012 , 07:01 PM | #309
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
There wasnt enough subscribers to keep the game afloat, even less will buy this content update.

So yah, its a bulls eye

But i guess those few that went to E3 and chose 9,99 will be happy, amiright?
Do you seriously think this change of marketing wasn't planned from the beginning? I mean no insults, but really, you're not that naive, are you?
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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 07:05 PM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Do you seriously think this change of marketing wasn't planned from the beginning? I mean no insults, but really, you're not that naive, are you?
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Ahh, you have an 8-ball that says one zone is all we're getting?
No, i think it was cooked up when 2+ million left the game.

No, i think it was cooked up when they saw they screwed up and are still in the red and numbers were still dropping, along with F2P.

Makeb was supposed to be content patch no. 1,5 along with new OP and FP and released before end of 2012 (1 year anniversary i would say)

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