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Powertech Tank or dps?

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Powertech Tank or dps?

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HeawiNobal
01.03.2013 , 08:06 AM | #11
Pyrotech DPS hits a ton when leveling... currently. A few guys in my guild have them at level 50 and they are ******. I really like this class so far. Will probably become my main once I hit 50 and get some gear for it.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.

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ahzecklawd
12.09.2013 , 03:45 AM | #12
Simple question.

Tank. BIO (since 2.0) forces Players into the Tank tree (PT Players) . AP just lost it s purpose , as a guy before me said FT being your main Dmg ability (AP spec) , you got a huge disadvantage in PvP due to the 'Low mobility' , while you cast FT you can take HUGE amount of INC DMG while your dmg is simply 'medium' .( Smash monkeys > 8 to 10k + smash dmg , 40% of your Health down with 1 hit , while your targets Health is still at 80% + .)

Pyro , looks still viable , due to the better mobility from main dmg ability (RS) , it's still nothing compared to any OTHER DPS TREE .

Oh yea , I hope ppl stop complain about 'OPs Nerf' , roll a PT and you'll go bck to OP in no time .

I love this class and always will , don't take my wrong . It's still a great class , but the Tank tree is the most viable from all 3 trees . I hope BIO starts listen to 'us' players and stop acting like they 'know' anything , because all they're doing is losing more and more ppl .


Cheers
The Red Eclipse

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ScytheEleven
12.09.2013 , 04:41 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by ahzecklawd View Post
Simple question.

Tank. BIO (since 2.0) forces Players into the Tank tree (PT Players) . AP just lost it s purpose , as a guy before me said FT being your main Dmg ability (AP spec) , you got a huge disadvantage in PvP due to the 'Low mobility' , while you cast FT you can take HUGE amount of INC DMG while your dmg is simply 'medium' .( Smash monkeys > 8 to 10k + smash dmg , 40% of your Health down with 1 hit , while your targets Health is still at 80% + .)

Pyro , looks still viable , due to the better mobility from main dmg ability (RS) , it's still nothing compared to any OTHER DPS TREE .

Oh yea , I hope ppl stop complain about 'OPs Nerf' , roll a PT and you'll go bck to OP in no time .

I love this class and always will , don't take my wrong . It's still a great class , but the Tank tree is the most viable from all 3 trees . I hope BIO starts listen to 'us' players and stop acting like they 'know' anything , because all they're doing is losing more and more ppl .


Cheers
Wait, what?

8k-10k smashes? Er, no. AP is super strong right now in PVP, especially since you have 30% damage reduction to ALL AoE's, not to mention the additional 30% damage reduction to everything when stunned. Yes, FT is clunky to use in PVP, thus making it a situational move rather than your bread and butter like in PVE. Pyro is also in a solid spot right now, offering good burst and easy-to-apply DoT's.

In no way is OP DPS in a better spot...OP DPS is terribad right now and needs so much TLC it isn't even funny.
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ahzecklawd
12.09.2013 , 05:08 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by ScytheEleven View Post
Wait, what?

8k-10k smashes? Er, no. AP is super strong right now in PVP, especially since you have 30% damage reduction to ALL AoE's, not to mention the additional 30% damage reduction to everything when stunned. Yes, FT is clunky to use in PVP, thus making it a situational move rather than your bread and butter like in PVE. Pyro is also in a solid spot right now, offering good burst and easy-to-apply DoT's.

In no way is OP DPS in a better spot...OP DPS is terribad right now and needs so much TLC it isn't even funny.
Can't take your 'reply' serious, due to the 'lack of experience' . 8-10k , means nothing for a 'decent' geared SM , that's the MIN dmg from Smash . OP due to the 'DoTs' can easily take out targets (I guess , you RQed OP , since you got no idea what you're saying) . I can easily put out a good amount of DPS on my OP , starter about 6 to 7 k crit , followed by BS with 3-4k , easily reach 9-10k in 1 sec .

Just because 'You can't play a class or others tell you it's bad' doesn't mean the class is bad .

I would love to prove my 'point' to you , TRE server , /w 'Cheezmen' .

P.S PvP = With PvP Gear . Not as 40% of pop , using PvE gear in PvP and wonder they don't do any good dmg.
The Red Eclipse

Operative l Scoundrel l Sniper l Marauder l Juggernaut l Vanguard

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ScytheEleven
12.09.2013 , 08:34 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by ahzecklawd View Post
Can't take your 'reply' serious, due to the 'lack of experience' . 8-10k , means nothing for a 'decent' geared SM , that's the MIN dmg from Smash . OP due to the 'DoTs' can easily take out targets (I guess , you RQed OP , since you got no idea what you're saying) . I can easily put out a good amount of DPS on my OP , starter about 6 to 7 k crit , followed by BS with 3-4k , easily reach 9-10k in 1 sec .

Just because 'You can't play a class or others tell you it's bad' doesn't mean the class is bad .

I would love to prove my 'point' to you , TRE server , /w 'Cheezmen' .

P.S PvP = With PvP Gear . Not as 40% of pop , using PvE gear in PvP and wonder they don't do any good dmg.
I'm almost at min-maxed Obroan.

8-10k might be the minimum for a standard smash hit. Put that to the 30% AoE reduction. That 10k hit becomes 7k, that 8k hit becomes 5.6k. Not to mention all you do in AP is Retractable Blade (Hydraulic Overrides) > get to 10m > kite while using Immolate, Flame Burst, and Flamethrower till Juggs/Mara's are dead.

I'm not disagreeing with you that Focus/Rage is very strong in PVP. I'm just saying that AP is in a very good place right now and works great for all aspects of PVP. Pyro needs you to be more aware of your team/opponents since it doesn't have a lot of passive defenses, but can certainly face-melt people if played right.

And Operative/Scoundrel DPS have zero survivability, that's what I was referring to. That's why most teams either A) don't use one or B) if the other has one, hard switches to them the moment they pop out of stealth. They are amazing classes for objective based matches (specifically node guarding/node stealing), but are seriously gimped in arenas.
Kendiaro - Powertech
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KainrycKarr
12.11.2013 , 12:41 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by ahzecklawd View Post
Can't take your 'reply' serious, due to the 'lack of experience' . 8-10k , means nothing for a 'decent' geared SM , that's the MIN dmg from Smash . OP due to the 'DoTs' can easily take out targets (I guess , you RQed OP , since you got no idea what you're saying) . I can easily put out a good amount of DPS on my OP , starter about 6 to 7 k crit , followed by BS with 3-4k , easily reach 9-10k in 1 sec .

Just because 'You can't play a class or others tell you it's bad' doesn't mean the class is bad .

I would love to prove my 'point' to you , TRE server , /w 'Cheezmen' .

P.S PvP = With PvP Gear . Not as 40% of pop , using PvE gear in PvP and wonder they don't do any good dmg.
Er, noone is arguing that smash is strong, it is. But, it's mostly a one-trick pony and any rated team worth it's salt isn't going to clump up and allow a smasher to sit there and whack everyone at once over and over, just as any rated team worth it's salt isn't going to let me chain a 3-stack FT on all four people if they can help it.

If you think AP isn't strong in PvP, then the APs on your server (a PVE server BTW, if I'm not mistaken) are not doing it right.

Even in my worst rounds I'm in the top 2 or 3 of total damage amongst all 16 players in regs, and in my best I'm sometimes 200-300k above the next highest DPS. And before you say "oh it's all fluff damage", no...it's not, as I am 9/10 top total kills and top total killing blows in both arenas and regs.

That said I'm not even the best PT/AP on my server by a long shot, so yes AP is finally in a good spot pvp-wise and I'd recommend new players to at least give it a shot. I haven't played Pyro in over a year and half but the pyros I've seen in rateds have been no slouches themselves.

All in all, I would go so far as to say Tank is actually the least of the three possible specs for powertech at the moment.