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Ashara Zavros useless?

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Ashara Zavros useless?

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cycao
02.16.2012 , 01:36 PM | #61
i have ashara decked out to the teeth with some orange lightsabers and epic purple mods i have purchased doing dailies and she hits like a truck now.

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IRLegend
02.16.2012 , 01:59 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by drunknurse View Post
Alright so I just got Ashara from Taris and left b4 my client crashed (except it did crash and I had to get a GM to move my character off the planet >.>). I find that she is 100% useless, she cant hold aggro, she does no damage, she has a tank cd which again useless if she cant produce any threat, her AOE slow has such a long cd its not even worth it. Maybe she is somehow good for assassins? As far as sorcerer goes I have so many tools for kiting I dont need her slow I need her to either hold aggro, heal me, cc enemies, or actually do viable damage. Does anyone else agree, or am I just terrible and shes actually amazing if you know how to use her?
maybe you should do a better job at reading her skills and you will realized she is only a DPS companion and not a tank...

Cuz she is a really good DPS comp too, my only problem is deciding if i want her melee dps or revel's ranged dps. If I don't just stick with my healing companion.
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IRLegend
02.16.2012 , 02:03 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Rade_Harkin View Post
I'm tank-spec. I don't need healing as much
you will towards the higher levels trust me, I'm tank spec too
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scootle
02.28.2012 , 10:11 PM | #64
i kinda like the idea of two girls with lightsabers running around shredding stuff, personally. my tank-assin is the hotness!

anyhow, all debate of ash vs. andro aside... i'm more curious about those who run ashara as their main dps companion, what stance seems to work better for you? arpen vs. the bleed stance...

there was lots of discussion on the BH forums that Torian (Ashara's mirror for BH) does a ton of dps in bleed stance, so that is what most people use... but i'm curious if that's the same case with Ashara?

i guess it's time to experiment a bit...

PS i should add, there are those in the BH discussions that will say Gault (Andro mirror) is the higher dps comp compared to Torian (Ashara mirror)...
utinni!!!

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Rhaphael
02.29.2012 , 03:20 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by scootle View Post
i kinda like the idea of two girls with lightsabers running around shredding stuff, personally. my tank-assin is the hotness!

anyhow, all debate of ash vs. andro aside... i'm more curious about those who run ashara as their main dps companion, what stance seems to work better for you? arpen vs. the bleed stance...

there was lots of discussion on the BH forums that Torian (Ashara's mirror for BH) does a ton of dps in bleed stance, so that is what most people use... but i'm curious if that's the same case with Ashara?

i guess it's time to experiment a bit...

PS i should add, there are those in the BH discussions that will say Gault (Andro mirror) is the higher dps comp compared to Torian (Ashara mirror)...
Torian is different from Ashara. He does almost entirely tech/elemental damage, which already bypasses armor. This is the reason that the armor penetration stance makes no sense on him and people (should) always use the bleed stance.

For Ashara I tried out both stances and didn't notice a big difference between either. I'm guessing it depends on how you gear her, if you focus on Power/Surge use her bleed stance, if you focus on Crit/Surge use her armor penetration stance.

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Tovenar
02.29.2012 , 10:05 AM | #66
My Ashara is in the level 40 pvp gear and uses the lvl42 pvp lightsbares (with the moda stripped and put into an offhand also).

Shes a mean one. Destroys pretty much everything, Can crit for 1.5-2K.

Its dam impressive.
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Kantoro
02.29.2012 , 12:30 PM | #67
It isn't her job to hold aggro.

Don't ask companions to do things they aren't designed and you have no cause to make bad generalization like "ashara is useless"

She has a use, a very good one. She can in fact kill champions, quickly and easily with you providing support. I use her to kill level 50 champions all the time as a healer.

In short, if you have a problem with Ashara, the problem isn't her.
Stupid should be painful.
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JohnTGalt
02.29.2012 , 12:48 PM | #68
THe "problem" with her (or any of the companions, really) isn't specific to the companion - it's that certain classes/specs just aren't suited to having/using certain companions.

I play a tankassin. There's no way I'm going to survive any of the fights on Ilum w/o Talos at my back. I need the healing to survive. Would I like to have Ashzara or Revel with me instead? Sure - but it isn't viable (at least not at my current gear level - maybe once I get into nightmare modes it will be).

If I were a class that could heal, that might be a very different scenario; I don't know. However, if I were a healing Sorcerer, I'd likely have no use for Talos at all, as running with 2 healers isn't exactly stellar either.

I like the companion concept, but I don't see why we need 5 of them. 1 DPS, 1 Tank, 1 Healer would be plenty, and to be honest, they should have set it up so that you pick what role you want your companion to be as soon as you get him/her/it. That way my tankassin didn't have to struggle thru 42levels before getting a healing companion while the healing sorc started with a tank companion at lvl 7.
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SeverinaR
02.29.2012 , 01:06 PM | #69
I've chosen healing as my role and if I want a DPS companion for a quick takedown, Andronikos is a lot better in that respect than Ashara.
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scootle
02.29.2012 , 01:15 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhaphael View Post
Torian is different from Ashara. He does almost entirely tech/elemental damage, which already bypasses armor. This is the reason that the armor penetration stance makes no sense on him and people (should) always use the bleed stance.

For Ashara I tried out both stances and didn't notice a big difference between either. I'm guessing it depends on how you gear her, if you focus on Power/Surge use her bleed stance, if you focus on Crit/Surge use her armor penetration stance.
That's good info. I forgot about the *type* of damage that Torian dishes out being a key factor. Anyhow, running with Ashara by my side for a bunch last night, she's plenty capable of shredding things in short time once you get her some gear. I set her up with level-appropriate orange gear/mods and she's fine (no pun intended). She's not the AOE machine Andro is, but she shreds single targets pretty dang quickly...

Quote: Originally Posted by Kantoro View Post
It isn't her job to hold aggro.
Nope... people who think otherwise are being silly. That said, she seems to take aggro just fine... moreso since the AI that runs the companions is horrible at simply assisting you on your target. I'll target something, attack it and pwwwwshhh... Ashara leaps off and attacks something else, prompting me to have to run around to collect the off target that she decided needed to die first... kinda frustrating how the companions can act like BAD PUGs...
utinni!!!