I Fully Support Makeb: Story Content is Encouraging and Should Be Encouraged!

I think it comes down to whether or not you are willing to support a SWTOR that does not have class stories. EA/Bioware have made the decision to abandon class story content. That's a done deal. It's just wishful thinking to pretend that they might continue class stories in the future. Makeb is the new norm for story content in SWTOR. If it does very well, it will only solidify this format for future story updates in SWTOR.

The only possible chance that we'll see a continuation to the class stories is if Makeb does poorly and they get a barrage of feedback about the lack of class stories in Makeb, and even then it's a very small chance.

You should support Makeb if you are happy with any story content, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you are making a down-payment on future class story continuations, because you are not.

This. The damage is already done just by setting the precedent of 5 entire levels with NO class story content. That's a nail in the coffin by itself. If Makeb is successful, the only thing that guarantees is more Makebs. More generic planet storylines. There is absolutely no reason to think that once abandoned, EAware would ever invest enough back into the game to continue all 8 stories.

The only way EAware will ever release a full-blown expansion is if Makeb fails. Don't reward them for their bad decisions, not even for $10.

I think it comes down to whether or not you are willing to support a SWTOR that does not have class stories. EA/Bioware have made the decision to abandon class story content. That's a done deal. It's just wishful thinking to pretend that they might continue class stories in the future. Makeb is the new norm for story content in SWTOR. If it does very well, it will only solidify this format for future story updates in SWTOR.

The only possible chance that we'll see a continuation to the class stories is if Makeb does poorly and they get a barrage of feedback about the lack of class stories in Makeb, and even then it's a very small chance.

You should support Makeb if you are happy with any story content, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you are making a down-payment on future class story continuations, because you are not.

Well, I disagree with you there. I would say that you are shooting yourself in the foot on this one. I would <3 and sing for joy pretty much if we got class-stories now. But if story don't sell at all, then we will be less likely to see any kind of story again.

I believe that you are wrong.

I really don't see where you guys are getting this crazy logic that they'd release a full blown expansion if a small, inexpensive one fails. More likely they'll just pull more funds away from actual content.

They aren't going to abandon stories. That just isn't going to happen. That's literally the only thing the BioWare name has going, to abandon that would be suicidal to the brand name EA paid so much for.




No less odd logic than thinking that Makeb selling well = larger expansion with class stories down the road. I know that wasn't the OPs point because the OP doesn't make blanket black and white statements like that, but I think that's the underlying sentiment and it's wrong. BioWare is never going to admit they've abandoned class stories, they are going to test the waters with Makeb and go from there.

I just think class stories are the only possible way to save this game and its future. In 6 months the F2P boom will go bust. It's going to take something ambitious and radical to turn this game around, and Makeb ain't it.

If Makeb doesn't do well then i don't believe in getting more story at all. But I am all for banging on the big drums saying that the next expansion better have class-stories. This has been in production for a long time, if they don't get money back on it then I think any kind of story-content is in danger. But after that I will personally be needing some class-story in order to be happy. I am a story-player foremost and a MMO-player secondly. I need story in order to be connected to my characters. I will support Makeb in any way I can, after that I want my class-story.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree

Hoping that we will have class-stories after Makeb, otherwise I'll cry fangirl tears over my poor characters and hide in Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

Alright, let’s talk about Makeb.

One of the first things we talked about way back in the day was that we wanted to make the eternal RPG. As soon as we started wrapping up any of the core content, we started making plans for the future. We then realized that people were burning through a lot of the core content. People were playing six or seven hour game sessions, and we were like, “We have to plan out all of our Ops and all of that stuff for the next year at least.” So we did that. All of that stuff for the next few Ops that people are going to see — you know we still have to build things, but all the core writing and the dialogue and the recording — all of that was written a long time ago. Then we started saying “What’s the next planet?” We looked back at everything we did well and not as well, and we realized that the best moments of our games from a storytelling perspective were definitely the early ones when it was more focused. You had fewer quests at one time, and they were much higher quality stuff, big high quality cinematics, really deep storytelling, big choices, stuff that you really, really were involved in, were excited about, and really could keep track of what you were doing. That is Makeb. Makeb is a return to full on AAA BioWare storytelling.

They aren't going to abandon stories. That just isn't going to happen. That's literally the only thing the BioWare name has going, to abandon that would be suicidal to the brand name EA paid so much for.




No less odd logic than thinking that Makeb selling well = larger expansion with class stories down the road. I know that wasn't the OPs point because the OP doesn't make blanket black and white statements like that, but I think that's the underlying sentiment and it's wrong. BioWare is never going to admit they've abandoned class stories, they are going to test the waters with Makeb and go from there.

I just think class stories are the only possible way to save this game and its future. In 6 months the F2P boom will go bust. It's going to take something ambitious and radical to turn this game around, and Makeb ain't it.

Let's go back and look at what the ol' Daniel Erickson had to say about Makeb before he departed (No, he's still alive!)

Now whether it lives up to his hype about it, we won't know until we see it, it could just be boring, but I just want to point out that this is story writing done by the original team, started pretty early on in production. They didn't create Makeb for the purpose of eliminating class stories. They just made it because they wanted to put in more story. I feel that boycotting this material is simply misguided and unhelpful.