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At the very least, the theme of the expansion make sense.

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At the very least, the theme of the expansion make sense.
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Lithy
12.19.2012 , 04:57 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Angedechu View Post
The Hutts are, without any doubt, the biggest minor ''player'' on the Galactic space.

By the time of the Cold War, there is little doubt that the Hutts would rank just a notch below the Empire or the Republic when thinking of worlds controlled or economic power.

And this is without considering that the Hutts in TOR times or ''modern'' SW times are the remnant of a vast empire that ruled around 15 000 ABY, before being devastated by the Hutts Cataclysm (the destruction of their homeworld Varl) and the Crusades from the Pius Dea.
I honestly like the Underworld side of star wars, so im looking forward to this direction. it ALSO opens the door for a future real expansion introducing a third playable faction, which I would join in a heartbeat. However what depresses me about Makeb is the lack of 8 class stories. That and the level cap, but mostly lack of stories. I PRAY we get 8 more stories eventually.
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12.19.2012 , 06:08 PM | #32
Will the story be linear? Or will there be incentive to play it through with different characters for different outcomes and paths? I always liked the concept of class storylines as they were unique for every character and think TOR doesn't have enough of those. I am afraid that the expansion story being the same for all characters of the faction will make it boring to replay with different characters as levelling quests except class quests have been so far (if you have levelled up multiple characters to 50 doing all the same quests and experiencing the same story over and over with little variation, you'll know what I mean).
A very non-linear, forked story that could be different for each playtrough could be the solution to that. Have you considered this when designing it? Or will it just be linear and the same for everyone of the same faction?

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12.21.2012 , 03:38 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Glzmo View Post
Will the story be linear? ...
A very non-linear, forked story that could be different for each playtrough could be the solution to that. Have you considered this when designing it? Or will it just be linear and the same for everyone of the same faction?
While I would agree and love to see a vastly changing story, I think you are basically gonna be stuck with the outcome ending in one or maybe two ways... I was discussing this notion with my friend. Aside from personal character growth (forking in whatever direction you want your character to go) I would imagine things being forced to shape up much like mass effect does. There should be deep character growth and shifting, but the overall story (the main plot) will most likely be forced to start and end the same way. This is because when you release more story after the fact, it has to work with all possible variations of the previous stories. If the stories continue to fork out over time, it becomes a tad... unrealistic...

if each planet had three forks, by the time you got to the end of the game 1-50 you would be looking at (assuming 12 planets) 531,441 unique endings... This is why everyone was so shocked by the prospect of at least 12 different endings to mass effect 3 (which sadly never happened) since that in itself is a massive undertaking.

TL;DR - Most likely not gonna happen, sorry... just not technically feasible to keep splitting the story.
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12.21.2012 , 04:32 AM | #34
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We think players interested in lore are going to really enjoy the story in Rise of the Hutt Cartel, and I'd like to share a few more details – this seemed like a good thread for it!

The people of Makeb have remained neutral in wars between the great political powers in the galaxy. Relying on their wealth, isolation, and an army of mercenaries, the citizens have enjoyed centuries of prosperity. However, in the midst of the current galactic conflict, the Hutt Cartel has recognized the planet as a crucial stepping stone to increase their organization's standing and reclaim the strength of their ancestors’ empire. They've hired Makeb's mercenaries away and have made the citizens prisoners in their own homes, forcing them to reach out to the Republic in a desperate bid for rescue.

The Republic recognizes the Cartel's seizure of Makeb as a bid for galactic power. With victory over the Empire seeming possible for the first time in decades, Supreme Chancellor Saresh is determined to respond to Makeb's request for aid to stop the Cartel before they can become an even greater threat and compromise the Republic’s chance for victory.

Taking advantage of the chaos erupting between the Hutt Cartel and the Republic, the Sith Empire makes their own bold play for the hidden power of Makeb, seizing their chance to regain some of the strength lost to internal struggles and at the hands of the Republic's military resurgence. They plan to outmaneuver all their enemies to usher in a new era of Imperial dominance.
This, I think, is the third thread in which you gave some additional info on Makeb. But one of us had to make a thread for you to do that.
Why? Why do we have to drag that info from you? Why isn't all of that on the front page? How freaking hard is it to post this in one big notice and put in somewhere where everyone can read it?

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12.21.2012 , 04:44 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
I did peek in there to see if a new thread for the Makeb story had been posted yet, but didn't see a recent one. We might move this one over there, though, since the discussion will hopefully be lore-oriented! If I get some new details, I'll bring them here!
Hello Allison, I hope I don't come across rude but if you checked the lore section and there wasn't a thread there then why didn't you just create one?

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Kubernetic
12.21.2012 , 11:08 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by nartiuslightlord View Post
Quesh Empire side should be the final straw for the cartel. not giving any spoilers, but really they should be pissed at empire and to some extent the republic for how they get treated. Hutts are mafia of star wars and right now they have had to bow or die to both factions. it is time to start going on the war path. would love to see a neutral class choice spawn from this BW!

let me expand on this concept and it's value.:

Smuggler and Bounty Hunters can go neutral but in truth work for the hutts and the Hutt faction. players can visit and play both factions sides and do both factions quest for the Hutts. playing and working both sides to further the Hutt agenda.

The re-playability alone being able to play both sides and do each sides quest as these two classed would be epic!. then you could let the smuggler trade illegal goods from the empire side, like republic gear for empire as well empire could get republic gear. As well the bounty hunters could finally be able to hunt players since they would be able to travel both sides of each faction and the rest would take this game to the a whole new level of Star Wars awesome.
You don't have to stop there... I'm sure the Hutts would love some ex-Republic troopers (who could prove their loyalty, of course) and even some ex-Imperial agents. Neutral/Unaligned Jedi would also be right at home.
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12.25.2012 , 11:12 PM | #37
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if each planet had three forks, by the time you got to the end of the game 1-50 you would be looking at (assuming 12 planets) 531,441 unique endings... .
Your math is horrible. By your details. There's 12 planets, with 3 different endings and 8 classes. That's 12*3= 36, 36*8= 288. Where you came up with any number about 1,000 is beyond me. When you actually do the proper math for it and get the correct answer. You realize that it's not too much to ask for different endings for each class. Also seeing as how all the other class missions are of this same way. It's natural to expect an expansion to carry on it on.

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funkhouse
12.25.2012 , 11:15 PM | #38
Ive never read a book outside of the 6 moives done on star wars and i can say the hutts are the stupidest race to be created...seriosuly how does an extremly large slug get into power in the first place? That underminds everything else thats going on in the stories.

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LordArtemis
12.25.2012 , 11:36 PM | #39
..This just in...

Republic investigators have discovered that profits collected from the black market, otherwise known as the "Cartel Market" were directly used to finance the takeover of the mercenary forces on Makeb.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled chat in progress.

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Kashley
12.25.2012 , 11:50 PM | #40
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..This just in...

Republic investigators have discovered that profits collected from the black market, otherwise known as the "Cartel Market" were directly used to finance the takeover of the mercenary forces on Makeb.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled chat in progress.
Hilarious! Lol
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