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One planet is not an expansion
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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 06:30 PM | #411
Quote: Originally Posted by DaRoamer View Post
Sure, if you don't feel you can provide a definition can you at least link the posts where someone else explains the clear delineation between what constitutes an "expansion" and what constitutes a "content patch"? Since it's been explained so many times you shouldn't have any trouble finding that.
Do it yourself rofl.

Because few posts after i do it, youll ask same question again...like you did gazzilion times before rofl.

Your tactic is NOT working lol

If you didnt get it by now....sorry bro

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DaRoamer
12.22.2012 , 06:36 PM | #412
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
Do it yourself rofl.

Because few posts after i do it, youll ask same question again...like you did gazzilion times before rofl.

Your tactic is NOT working lol
Silly me, trying to bring logic and facts into the discussion. Maybe if I use more rofls and looooooooooooooooooooong words you'd understand my posts better. Oh, and I should EMPHASIZE words just so you know I'm making a serious point. Anyway, it's clear you have no clue what you're talking about so I'll just leave it at that.

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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 06:39 PM | #413
Quote: Originally Posted by DaRoamer View Post
Silly me, trying to bring logic and facts into the discussion. Maybe if I use more rofls and looooooooooooooooooooong words you'd understand my posts better. Oh, and I should EMPHASIZE words just so you know I'm making a serious point. Anyway, it's clear you have no clue what you're talking about so I'll just leave it at that.
Yes, you do that please so we can have a discussion without "but but but prove it to me...again" on every second page rofl.

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Darth-Rammstein
12.22.2012 , 07:30 PM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by Malkavier View Post
One entire planet is not an expansion?

I take it you never played World of Warcraft.

Burning Crusade: Part of a mostly disintegrated planet.

Wrath of the Lich King: One continent.

Cataclysm: Several sub-areas of two continents that were available at launch. Two new sub-areas.

Mists of Pandaria: An island.
WoW is so much bigger it's not even funny. I'm laughing at you thinking outland or northrend is no bigger than Makeb. If anything Makeb is the size of 1-2 wow zones INSIDE of one of those continents.
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Durasturan
12.22.2012 , 11:10 PM | #415
Quote: Originally Posted by DaRoamer View Post
And now they call it an expansion. So we've now determined that they can call it whatever they want. Last summer it was a content update, at some point they realized that it was enough content to call it an expansion so they renamed it.

Is that really your only argument? Semantics?

The only thing that has any importance is whether people find value in the $10 cost. It doesn't matter if you call it a content update, an expansion, an adventure pack, DLC or anything else. The truth is neither you, me or anyone else aside from the developers knows at this point how much content there is. So go ahead and cry that one sentence in an interview 6 months ago was gospel and a promise of whatever you'd like to pretend was promised, it doesn't mean anything.

Buy it or don't buy it but stop with the silly semantic arguments and wait to see how much content there is and compare it to content that was sold in other MMOs and then decide if you think it's worth the money or not.
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So when I hear labels thrown around like "content update" and "expansion" instead of thinking they added so much more value that a game that just went free to play because its content is literally worthless to the average consumer is now worth people spending money on it, I instead think of the difference between a "used car salesman" and a "certified preowned dealer." (The only difference is in the price and how much more people will pay for something that sounds a bit nicer even if reality says its a vastly inferior product.)

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Eillack
12.22.2012 , 11:23 PM | #416
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
To give you all a better idea of Makeb's scope, it's a planet of equal size to our larger planets and it contains a variety of areas sprawling mesas, underground caverns, garden estates, and more. It introduces faction-specific storylines, new Heroic missions and bosses, repeatable mission series, and new Datacrons! The 5 new levels will occupy players for a fair amount of time, and there's plenty of content to get you there (including a lot of stuff tucked away for the explorers out there). Keep in mind that this announcement is just the start as we approach Makeb's launch, you'll see more details about the content coming with Rise of the Hutt Cartel!
New datacrons....please, as long as we don't ahve to play Super Mario with them again. I'm fine with that.

But any word on when Legacy wide datacron unlocks will be coming?
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Exly
12.23.2012 , 01:13 AM | #417
I see that many of the people responding to this thread have already decided to buy the "expansion". I wonder; looking back at the planets that you have seen so far, which one(s) would you have paid $10 or $20 for if you had to as you leveled? Would you still be playing the game if you had to pay to unlock each planet as you leveled? I assume that you would all have been glad to paid, after all it is about the same as spend for (fill in the blank) every day, and $10 is not that much money anyway so why would't you have paid?

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Grayseven
12.23.2012 , 02:14 AM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Rammstein View Post
WoW is so much bigger it's not even funny. I'm laughing at you thinking outland or northrend is no bigger than Makeb. If anything Makeb is the size of 1-2 wow zones INSIDE of one of those continents.
Really? So you've seen the planet already? Why don't you tell us all this super-secret information that only you seem to have access to so we can all judge for ourselves?

Voss alone is as big as Northrend and no one except the Dev's involved know exactly how big and exactly what content will be added in.

One planet an expansion seems like a good idea, especially if it also involves additions to already existing planets. We've already seen things like BH and Section X added onto already existing planets, what makes you think this won't happen with this expansion?

Considering Hutta and Nar Shadaa are Hutt planets, logic would dictate that some of the expansion would involve areas added onto one or both of these planets.
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Shingara
12.23.2012 , 02:46 AM | #419
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
Really? So you've seen the planet already? Why don't you tell us all this super-secret information that only you seem to have access to so we can all judge for ourselves?

Voss alone is as big as Northrend and no one except the Dev's involved know exactly how big and exactly what content will be added in.

One planet an expansion seems like a good idea, especially if it also involves additions to already existing planets. We've already seen things like BH and Section X added onto already existing planets, what makes you think this won't happen with this expansion?

Considering Hutta and Nar Shadaa are Hutt planets, logic would dictate that some of the expansion would involve areas added onto one or both of these planets.
Gabe stated that it was fully fledged and well on its way in september, JO said it was a large content patch in june, the doctors leave and hickman states hes unsure right after and aparently all info disapears. Section X plus hk costs a free to play player $14 whilst Makeb costs a free to play player $20 so you do the math.
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Durasturan
12.23.2012 , 03:17 AM | #420
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
Really? So you've seen the planet already? Why don't you tell us all this super-secret information that only you seem to have access to so we can all judge for ourselves?

Voss alone is as big as Northrend and no one except the Dev's involved know exactly how big and exactly what content will be added in.

One planet an expansion seems like a good idea, especially if it also involves additions to already existing planets. We've already seen things like BH and Section X added onto already existing planets, what makes you think this won't happen with this expansion?

Considering Hutta and Nar Shadaa are Hutt planets, logic would dictate that some of the expansion would involve areas added onto one or both of these planets.
There is a post in the dev tracker by a mod talking about the size and scope of the planet, this is confirmed information, not hearsay or conjecture. Way to stay on top of information, you are totes informed and should def be listened to...