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FeelFlow
12.24.2012 , 08:20 AM | #301
Quote: Originally Posted by Eraus View Post
There are some valid points raised. I personally think it's better if BW focuses on delivering Makeb instead of spending time on a holiday event.

This year was really hard on everyone BioWare Austin. I think we as the fans should acknowledge that and give them some time to show us, that they are committed to making this game what the fans of the game want it to be.

Let's remember that SWTOR is their first MMO and they need to learn. Yes I know that they have some MMO veterans on the team. Everyone makes mistakes, it doesn't mean they can't learn from it, and avoid these mistakes in the future.

With or without the holiday or anniversary event I see that the server population isn't dropping. Which is a good sign. SWTOR currently doesn't need a event to hold the attention of the player.

I personally will wait for ROTHC, I have hopes for the update/expansion and I think it could give us a clearer picture of the future of this game.
That's a really nice set of points.

Sometimes the forums here can be really negative. However one way to look at it is that it would be scarier of no one was posting! I.e. the people who post do so as they are passionate about getting a great game. And with an MMO, it's hard to please everyone as different people want amazing WZ, amazing open world PvP, an amazing endgame and finally, amazing KOTOR style story and immersion (I'm one of these). And of course they're mad about the bugs and lack of QoL updates.

However, I'm sure BW know all if this and that now the F2P infrastructure is in place their teams can work on refining this, improving the game systems and servers etc and of course, working on Makeb.

Onwards and upwards BW and have a happy Xmas!

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Rezakh
12.24.2012 , 08:23 AM | #302
Quote: Originally Posted by JediMB View Post

And, yes, the pricing for Cartel Market items is insane,
^This. I like the cartel market for some things here and there but the prices could use a drastic (talking 50-90%) reduction, easily. Think about it, you're buying a level 31 prototype set which does not include bracers and belt while being nothing but reskins for around the neighborhood of 10-15 dollars?

What would that kind of stuff cost in other successful F2P models? a tenth of that? 20%?

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Eraus
12.24.2012 , 08:27 AM | #303
Without seeing the revenue numbers from the cartel market we can only guess. As always demand will shape the price. If they see that the items aren't selling as much they will lower the price. If they see that the items are selling like hot cakes they will not lower the price.

I think they are still trying to find out the sweet spot for players. I personally agree that the prices should be lowered. I would say around 30% - 50%, 90% is a bit much.

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darklordpotter
12.24.2012 , 08:37 AM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
What's really funny is the amount of misinformation and projection (based on mind projection fallacy) that I see on this board daily. From the game, to now Christmas, people just blurt out assumptions like they are giving out candy.

"polling numbers: “80% of all Americans are Christians, and 95% of all Americans who have a religion are Christian,” he reports. Even with the rise of “nones” — people with no religious affiliation — nine out of ten Americans answer “Yes” when asked if they believe in God."
Huh? what's that to do with the price of fish. The survey is American only (unlike the people on this board), the comment wasn't implying anything about religion other than stating several Christmas traditions started as pagan traditions for winter Solstice (which is factually correct) and lastly what does it matter to the point.

Namely SWtoR is the only major western MMO not to have a Christmas /Hannukah /Winter Solstice/ Holiday season event. Literally the only one.

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Lord_Karsk
12.26.2012 , 03:17 AM | #305
After watching the show a second time i cant go against anything they say.
The cartel shop is just at this points mindless greed.Like they say who is in charge of these loony toon prices ?
They just dont get it, i mean we all get it but they dont understand the basic of them pushing players away with doing these things.

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Lord_Erman
12.26.2012 , 03:22 AM | #306
I'm not a Christian. I wouldn't mind a Xmas holiday event. As long as I have something different to do, I couldn't care less why.
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Karkais
12.26.2012 , 03:56 AM | #307
Quote: Originally Posted by Jack_Deth View Post
Exactly, adding Christian holidays to fantasy worlds is immersion breaking in my opinion.
Seconding this.
"What is a Sith? Over time, the beliefs have changed, but one constant has remained. The imposition of one's will on the force, on the environment surrounding one, on the galaxy itself." - Darth Wyyrlok III

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darklordpotter
12.26.2012 , 07:34 AM | #308
Then do something for the holiday no-one is saying it has to be santa hats and choirs on fleet. Eve is celebrating by having a massive fleet battle. Christmas? no. Fun holiday evert? yes.

Doesn't have to be immersion breaking - not that in a lot of ways ToR worries about that given christmas light speeders and Jedi in Sith armour but still.

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phattisimo
12.29.2012 , 02:48 AM | #309
lol kinda ironic we got 2 footballs that RETURN when thrown for FREE in that other game...or was it?...i think bw/ea just got seriously trolled...rofl

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Goretzu
12.29.2012 , 03:50 AM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by kidatwood View Post
Im a huge fan of TOR but tbh these guys were right on this one expecially the 18 dollar speeder. And they hit the nail on the head when they said it was even a cool mount. Ill have to see what happens from here out but if there going to keep this up i might have to reconsider playing this game due to there pricing and how subscribers are getting charged insane amounts for vanity items that should be in game via quests.
That's the thing though, these guys (especially 2 of them) are huge SWTOR fans, those 2 didn't say a word against SWTOR for the first 9 months (only Taugrim did - although by "against" I mean he just pointed out what WAS wrong).

But now even they have started to tell it like it is.

Certainly they are bang on with the Cashshop being too expensive (far too expensive) and the whole Life Day at the Cashshop/$18.00 Santa mount being not only a disaster, but frankly insulting to loyal customers.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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