Can we not buy this 'Expansion' with Cartel Coins?

For more than 2,000,000 people who have tried SWTOR and then left there WAS a final straw.

If only they'd stayed who knows where SWTOR may have been.

I wont buy it, I do not trust it when you have to pay digitally and not getting a physicall copy.

The cartel would be much more easier

I wish people would stop with these ridiculous comparisons. I don't eat at McDonald's at all because it's too expensive.

I subscribed when it was the only way to play the game. During Beta and the first month I enjoyed it so much that I was willing to pay a tenth of my monthly disposable income for this hobby. When F2P was announced they did everything to make us believe subs get the care-free all-inclusive deal. (Even if, in hindsight, I see that they have been quite careful with their actual wording. But the aim was clearly to make us believe we have nothing to worry about if we are subscribers.) Right now, as a subscriber, I feel like I get the short end of the stick.

During the marketing research discussions in spring, they asked us if and how much we would pay for Makeb and what we would expect from it. I said I'd pay maybe $3-5, but most in my group said they wouldn't pay for it at all. As so many other decisions since then, it's just another one that completely ignores what I heard players say, wish for and warn about back then. (My group was willing to pay $40-50 for a WoW-style game expansion, though.)

Seeing how so many defend EAWare's decisions now, I guess the player base is changing, in fact, has changed already, and I, too, may be making room for the new generation soon.

To be fair if someone promised you a pony and then didn't give you one what would the acceptable behaviour be?

I understand that things change, however that doesn't change what was promised, so people have every right to be a bit peeved (especially if they don't follow the game closely and this is the first time they've heard it - me I was certain it would be paid for the first time they said they were "thinking" about it).

But to furthermore then cash grab and not allow Cashshop coins to be used is just plain below the belt.

Wow, you documented all those people? I mean it couldnt have been OTHER people who said that previously right?

Thinking further on the issue of this "digital Expansion" and it not being available for cartel coins I find myself more and more resigned to the idea that my days in this game are numbered.

For me it is choice not to give financial information to gaming companys. For others they don't have it to give. For whatever reason there are people all over the world without credit cards or paypal. They are now locked out of the expansion just as I am. Really bad move there BW/EA.

Years ago after the TSO/EALand debacle I told myself I would never give money to EA again. So I didn't try this game until F2P. Liked it so much that against my better judgement I went out and bought a time card and subbed. Now I am starting to think my original assessment was right. Don't support EA with my money.

If there is no change on the position about selling the expansion for CC then I will be dropping back to preferred and when that becomes to much trouble or I run out of content I am out.

I know no one cares. I suspect EA doesn't care. This is how I feel about it and I wanted it said in a place where someone from EA might just read it.

Without seeing the expansion, I would imagine the answer is that Mekeb is like 10x the size of Section X content wise....

I honestly don't feel bad for Bioware with the blow-back from customers after they did insinuate that mekeb would probably be free to subscribers or at the very least be able to use their cartel coins to buy it..... In my view the only way Bioware can justify themselves is if the expansion is fairly sizable. Anything less and it will be seen as another money grab.

Also keep in mind that Bioware has now seen how many Subscribers are willing to shell out big bucks for their cash shop items, these are the players there going to zone in on and ignore the "" cheap "" players who try to budget themselves, so as long as a majority of people are willing to throw money at Bioware the rest of us are SOL.

I imagine they had a lot of players spend enough money on cartel coins to pay for 3-4 years worth of subscriptions...

Sadly, I'm still sitting on the free coins they gave us. The Cash Shop is crap even as cosmetics go, and I don't play the lockbox/gambling bag game. Not in STO, DCUO, CO, or anywhere.

I dont mind if i can only preorder for real cash and get the early acces that way. I dont mind having to pay twice as much CC than cash for this socalled expansion. But not having the option to buy it with CC, that i mind.

No continuation of class story and not available in the shops = not an expansion in my book. I could live with this if i could get it via cartel market, but this is hard. I´m still in two minds about continuing my sub. It´s not that i dont like the game, it´s just that when i startet swtor a year ago it seemed more stable than now. What are my sub money spend on. Atm it seems like the main fokus is on cartel market. The two listed bugfixes in last patch notes were cartel bugfixes.

I want to keep loving swtor, but i need to feel loved back or my love will slowly die. I dont want more of the same grinds. There´s enough FP´s and OP´s and Daily quests. We need something else. A new "grind" An achievement grind for a title e.x. or daily class quest for class commendations for some new items. Could be ship custumisations or new companion looks or make a barber shop where it costs class coms to change looks.

Actually at least Sony kind of do the PS3 is sold at a loss in the hope you buy lots of games and blue ray and they make their money that way. Don't know about Microsoft though.

So if it was free with a tiny sub population and they now have a bigger population and a cash shop they suddenly have to charge subscribers can't quite see the logical link there.