So much for not charging subs for Makeb

I know, I understand that too, it's a matter of principle and I like that. And I agree that it's a **edit** thing to do, I just found it telling of some people (not you).

Whats wrong with gamers today. They have all turned into children.

They take any announcement and claim it doctrine or written in stone. A 6 month old statement and it's still being brought up as if it held any weight and thats not taking into account it was recanted 2 months later. It's kinda like children when you say, "Hold on a second and I'll get you a cookie!" and they yell, "ONE - GIVE ME MY COOKIE!" Everything taken literally, latching onto any information and think it can never change.

I've said it before, it's no wonder game companies are so hesitant to tell gamers anything during development. Look at the past 2 days of threads and you can see why. I get now why blizzard says some of the things they do when talking about upcoming information.

You can read the forums over and over and how gamers are saying it's not about the money, yet the majority still post about that 6 month old statement from 2 different people and tied them together in the hopes they would get something for free. Meaning, it was about the money all along.

Gamers today seem to have reverted back to some form of early childhood.

You also paid $15 a month for nearly 10 months with no new content in waiting on MOP. We seem to be doing a little better than that in SWTOR. (for now)

It's also pretty easy to figure out that with levels raised by 5. There has to be new FP's and operations to run. I'm sure we'll get a nightmare mode TFB in there but there will have to be more content for end game to accommodate level 55. Of course given the announcement, we know little now but more to come as the months roll by.

My major concern here is if they are willing to sell a very large content update, and people buy it. Whats to prevent them from selling a WZ or Op/Fp for say 4.99. Hell five dollars is cheap right? The slope is getting very slippery very quickly.

Makeb at best seems to be a content patch, not an expansion - that is the issue most people have as BW said they wont charge for content patches. They seem to be calling Makeb an expansion just to get money from us, granted its not a lot but content patches are free, so you see the issue.

We are in a dark age for consumers. Many people just accept what large corporations throw at them and flame those who stand up for their rights and shout back. These companies would be nothing without their customers, their customers pay their wages and have more power over these people than they realise.

people really need to stop just accepting and putting up with stuff and make EA and BW work for their money. Makeb seems lazy, and people are right to make a lot of noise about it.

Maybe the people who defend BW/EA should give it a rest. If you and everyone else stood up to these guys the end result would be so much better for everyone as BW/EA would realise we arent mindless drones who just accept anything they throw at us.

I understand not everyone is like this but there appears to be an awful lot who are.

Yes I am poor. Technically I cant even afford the $15 a month as it is but Id go insane without this game as a stress reliever.
I dont go to fast food chains and I dont go out. I dont buy alcohol nor smoke or buy expensive stuff.

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No I didn't wait. I quit WoW in between 4.2 and 4.3 patch. I didn't resub for 4.3 due it's lack luster pve content and downward trend in pvp.

Very large content update such as this one can be sold without a question, and you and i both know that they will never ask a subscriber to pay 5$ for a small content patch and yet you have decided to hijack another thread.
Your concern is legit however don't keep repeating that all this rant is not about 10$ for Makeb, because it is regardless of the way you try to present it, if it were free then we wouldn't be having this discussion would we?

All in all, i will say again, bring on the expansion, i am always looking forward to new content.
Large amount of new content for measly 10$ always tops the option of having no large content updates at all and keeping ten bucks in my pocket.

Where was the slippery slope argument as they rolled out BH/SectionX/TFB/Hk-51/Hypergate and any of the other "free" content ads? That's a record you can look at.

Now if you think all of that gets brushed aside because they are going to charge 10-20 bucks for a major content pack....then it smacks of entitlement mentality. You can say it's not about the 9.99 and try and claim principle. But principles have already been met with alot of free stuff.

They need to make money on this product as well. they arent in business to pay salaries, buy popular licensing rights and then just give it all away because a guy 6 months ago wasnt calling it an expansion.

it's fun, it's a game...but it's also business. When you dont make money, you close shop. Plain and simple.

No where did I say I wasn't going to buy Makeb. But, Let me make its clear. again. What is to stop them for selling it for $5...I am not as confident as you, they will not try.

Agreed.

One thing we know..if a product sells, they make more. That goes for any business. My wife and I are both buying this expansion pack because we love this game, and we want as much new content as they want to throw at us.