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So much for not charging subs for Makeb

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MisterMuse
12.18.2012 , 06:58 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Spoletta View Post
We really have to ask what is the difference between an expansion and a content update. Then after we stated what is an expansion we divide it by 4 and if the Hutt Cartel Rise meets those requirements then they were right in charging 10 bucks for it.
So:

1)Level rise is definitely an expansion trademark.

2) Additional content needs to be in there too, and Makeb alone if it has the same dimensions of other planets then it`s not enough of content for an expansion, even 1\4 of it. If makeb is 2 times larger than other planets, or if they expand the game in some other way then i`ll be ok with it.

3) One new mechanic, like a mini game or the mentoring system needs to be in there.

With those 3 requirements fulfilled i`ll keep supporting this game. Actually i`ll be even happyer if they keep the micro expansions system. That other game forces you to purchase 40 bucks of expansions every year to play, with this system you are forced to pay only 10.
What about new end-game content, with increased level cap they'll hopefully release at least one new operation so keep "hardcore" gamers something to chew on for a bit.
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Goretzu
12.18.2012 , 06:58 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Clevelandboy View Post
They never said it would be free they said it was a possibility (for some reason people do not understand what this word means)
No they said it would be free, then they said it was a possiblity subscribers would be charged for it, now they are saying they will be.


It's not surprise, as I said when they first mentioned they "might" charge for it, that it was a done deal and they would, again though so many said they never would and/or to wait till they announced it and THEN complain.

But it's always far too late to get companies to change anything AFTER the fact.
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Spoletta
12.18.2012 , 06:59 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Alec_Fortescue View Post
Wowowow... Sorry but let's compare Makeb with WoW expansions once it will be out. Personally I don't think it will be comparable in size.
It costs 1\4 of those expansions.

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Fornix
12.18.2012 , 06:59 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
No they said it would be free, then they said it was a possiblity subscribers would be charged for it, now they are saying they will be.


It's not surprise, as I said when they first mentioned they "might" charge for it, that it was a done deal and they would, again though so many said they never would and/or to wait till they announced it and THEN complain.

But it's always far too late to get companies to change anything AFTER the fact.
Please link to the original announcement where a BioWare employee stated it would be free. Till provided, it's just make-belief and that entire argument is going nowhere.
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Goretzu
12.18.2012 , 07:00 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
Link to the quotation where they guaranteed it would be free. As all I recall is them saying it's still being looked into.
That was when they suddenly came out with that they "might" charge subscribers for it, prior to that it was to be free for subscribers.

I recall you saying that they would not charge subscribers for it, but you like others were wrong again.
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Taorus
12.18.2012 , 07:03 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Probably........... and this is just a guess mind you............... because Bioware EA orginally said Makeb would be free for subscribers.


They said about 4 months ago that they were "thinking about charging for it now", and I said then that it was a done deal and it would be charged for, many said "wait and see, they won't charge for it" as many have said so many wrong things about SWTOR now.
Well I said they would charge for It, I said they would charge $9.99US for it, They are. This and many other things were all listed in the leaked survey that everyone said was just made up.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=522969

I still don't have any issue with them charging for it.

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Spoletta
12.18.2012 , 07:04 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by MisterMuse View Post
What about new end-game content, with increased level cap they'll hopefully release at least one new operation so keep "hardcore" gamers something to chew on for a bit.
If they don`t rescale actual end game to lvl 55 then this will be a distaster. Luckily they already hinted at it being the case.

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SpearlikeAtom
12.18.2012 , 07:05 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Zyrious View Post
I support the game with 15 dollars a month plus my pre-order long before it was released, and my loyalty through the long stretch of no content updates. Furthermore, it doesnt matter what the price is, the MMO market has competition and i compare this product to it's competitors, whom currently are providing superior content updates for their subscribers at no additional charge, with expansions that include far more content than a single zone and a 5 level cap raise. This is content-update level stuff, but they want to nickle and dime us instead of giving us content updates like should be given to paying subscribers.

Again i point to trion, i'm not a rift fan but their developer is great, they have already published more than triple the content through updates than SWTOR has done in its lifetime, all major SWTOR content so-far after this will be additional-expense content. Hell, even STO is outpacing SWTOR now with a whole planet, guild updates, and more quests at no additional charge to its customers. Its bad when STO is releasing more content updates without charging than SWTOR...
It was a year before SWG released its first expansion and almost three years before WoW did, and they both charged for those and you're complaining that TOR is releasing their first one in just over a year? Do you just not have enough to do that you would complain about something like this?

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SpearlikeAtom
12.18.2012 , 07:08 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Loladarulz View Post
BW is stupidly greeeeeeeeeeeeedy, and its this stupid greed that gonna kill them together with the game. Hopefully. Why the hell do you need to charge subs, what are you thinking ?? Many will leave from revolt I am sure. This will just make things worse for everyone. And you wont get more money - WHY? Because you will lose subs... aaargh this is like talking to buffalos.

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You didn't have to pay for the expansion in Galaxies or WoW? Even as a subsrciber? Oh, wait... Yes you did. That's right.

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brokenspiders
12.18.2012 , 07:08 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Lucyfer_Infinity View Post
http://www.swtor.com/buy

Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies. Is all we ever hear from you bioware. 5 lvl cap increase and 1 planet is your definition of paid expansion bioware? Really?
Thank you for pointing this out to me. I didn't see it till now. Pre-ordered.