So much for not charging subs for Makeb

As I'm sure you know, you can price a product in one of two ways:
Either you set your price low, therefore you have a bigger customer base that spends less or you set the price high and have a smaller customer base that spends more.
There are of course some inherent limitations, considering the customer base is not the whole world but a few hundred thousand people of which some are totally indifferent to the whole idea of buying anything vanity-related. Bioware is still obviously testing its customer base's limits right now. They want to see how much is too much.

But as for your question, that is something that Bioware, who is obviously still testing the waters, should decide.

Believe me when I say that I don't really give much thought to how my character looks. Granted, I do not want him to look like an oversized chicken or like he jumped out of a Marvel comic, but I will not pay real life money to make him look better. I will try to find some gear I like through other means (questing, GTN etc.).
However you should not underestimate how much people are willing to pay to make a virtual character look as close to what they'd want him/her to look like.

Status symbols, whether they are recoloring of old armor or a previously unattainable hoods-down robe, is what a lot of people want. I'm definitely not saying that it's OK for Bioware to recolor a shell and try to pass it as something new, but what it all comes down to is that as long as people buy them, they will keep doing just that. Money speak louder than words sometimes and as long as they are rolling in they (think they) are on the right path.

By MY definition of an expansion, an expansion must include a level cap increase, a new zone to explore, a new class and a new race. Since this doesn't have a new class or race it does not qualify as a expansion under my definition.

Oh and also the fact Jame's Ohlen specifically said it's NOT an expansion, it is a patch and nothing in their description of what this "expac" includes indicates they have substantially increased the amount of content it contains.

You keep saying this, along with your lame "effect" thing, but in truth it IS about the money. Because if it isn't, you don't have an argument.

You were never told it was going to be free. You simply (and wrongly) interpreted an interview to say what you want it to say instead of what it actually says (or in this case, doesn't say). You infer so much in the video that your false outrage has you blind to the facts...FACTS...that no one ever said Makeb was going to be free.

The facts have been shown to you, along with the simple fact that you, as a "business man" (yeah, right) should know that business plans change.

Your constant statements to the contrary, for you it has to be about the money because nothing else makes sense.

You are taking snippets of the debate and not looking at the whole. Vanity items and gold products offer no practical value aside from bragging rights. Yes gold could be bartered for better things in real life, but the same could be said for vanity items. You have that overlord throne mount or revans mask? 1-2 million credits for it. How are either of them not similar?

I brought forth the food and the starving man example, because vanity is as useless as it is in this game as gold is useless to starving man in the desert.

Expansion packs should make people happy. instead im reading all these complaints. i am worried about the lv cap 55. i dont think thats enoughts. at least 60. and then one day 100. and we shall have peaaaaacceeeeee

I'm pretty excited about it and 5 new levels is not too bad but my current only real worry about the digital expansion is talent trees. Are they going to revamp them, tweak them a little or are we just going to get 5 more talent points?

So much more information I need and it's just not there yet. So I must wait.

/thread.

If there's anywhere of record where BW/EA committed to delivering Makeb as part of a patch update, post the proof or drop it. Pics or it didn't happen, folks.

Not at first, it wasn't until they gave up and went F2P that it was started to be questioned. I like how the fanboys are so eager to forget the past. All you have to do is look it up on the forums, it's all there in black and white and color video. They held back this content update until after F2P was live, it has been ready for months and was show cased at E3 here http://www.swtor.com/info/media/trai...new-reveals-e3. The same can be said for AH and the corresponding WZ. This company is FAIL and will continue to be as long as they continually treat it's loyal customer base in this fashion.

It was also promised to be released this year.

I think a Bioware dev said something along the lines that they were not sure yet if they would charge for Makeb or not because of it being such a big chunk of content. I'm sure its in the dev tracker history.

If u hate the company why stick around? Why waste time here instead of playing something else...?