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Those irritating whining skippers in HMs...


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Zamppa
12.13.2012 , 07:52 AM | #1
Yeah as the title says! I'm starting to be absolutely full of those whining people in Group Finder based Hard Modes who keep whining "spam that spacebar", "run through that boss" and who want to skip every single group of normal mobs. Constant whining "spam the spacebar, run through this and that because I have to and clean my room in 20 minutes because my mommy says so". I'm completely okey with skipping some of the useless mobs but skipping all middlebosses only to get the 5 daily BH comms is ridiculous...There are many people around who would find the possible columni drops very useful and could use the tionese crystals so killing normal bosses should be required to complete the HM Flashpoint.

A whole another story are those healers and tanks who just refuse to join into the fight because "they are so busy and do not need the drops". I have seen some of those who just sit outside the fight and tell people that "good luck soloing that boss because I won't come as I don't need the drops". Also those people who start to call other people names when they happen to pull the aggro from a random thrash group because they don't know how hard they will have to hug the wall to be able to skip it. Why are these skippers even playing the game if all they want is to skip everything but the last boss to get daily commendations?
"What can you say - I'm a talented individual"
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MiraniSedai
12.13.2012 , 08:03 AM | #2
Although I agree to an extent that bosses should not be skippable the fact is they are. As long as they are there WILL be people who want to skip them. This is just a fact of life in every game I have ever played that had group content.

There really are only a couple of remedies for it.
1. Form your own group and make sure everyone understands nothing will be skipped before you go.
2. Roll a tank. Most groups pretty much follow where the tank leads.
3. Get in a guild that regularly runs the content and is willing to not skip.

Coming to the forums is NOT going to put pressure on anyone to stop skipping things and is unlikely to have any effect whatsoever on BW/EA to change the mechanics of the HM.

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Amorianallund
12.13.2012 , 08:12 AM | #3
Spam the spacebar should totally be expected. If you want to see the storyline in it, then run a regular mode version of it. Most of the regular FP's can be solo'd by someone who is running HM's.

Skipping bosses...most should be skipped if they can be. Half of them drop tionese only gear, which you should no longer need if you are getting your free tionese comms.

Calling people names....unacceptable but understandable. There's alot of idiocy people have to put up with in GF.
I recently ran D7 HM for the first time ever, as my Juggernaut. Apparently the 3 droid fight can wipe alot of parties if the tank is an idiot. My group had no problem on it. Ran it the next day as well...again, no problem.

Skipping fights because you don't need the drops? Total crap. I would start a vote to kick someone if they did this.
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Xatasha
12.13.2012 , 08:18 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Zamppa View Post
Yeah as the title says! I'm starting to be absolutely full of those whining people in Group Finder based Hard Modes who keep whining "spam that spacebar", "run through that boss" and who want to skip every single group of normal mobs. Constant whining "spam the spacebar, run through this and that because I have to and clean my room in 20 minutes because my mommy says so". I'm completely okey with skipping some of the useless mobs but skipping all middlebosses only to get the 5 daily BH comms is ridiculous...There are many people around who would find the possible columni drops very useful and could use the tionese crystals so killing normal bosses should be required to complete the HM Flashpoint.

A whole another story are those healers and tanks who just refuse to join into the fight because "they are so busy and do not need the drops". I have seen some of those who just sit outside the fight and tell people that "good luck soloing that boss because I won't come as I don't need the drops". Also those people who start to call other people names when they happen to pull the aggro from a random thrash group because they don't know how hard they will have to hug the wall to be able to skip it. Why are these skippers even playing the game if all they want is to skip everything but the last boss to get daily commendations?
You put them on ignore and forget them. That is how you solve your problem

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Cathest
12.13.2012 , 08:18 AM | #5
Play a bit longer and ull be skipping too

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anstalt
12.13.2012 , 08:23 AM | #6
As always, communication is the key.

Establish at the start if the group wants to skip or not. If they want to skip but you dont then you can drop group then and there and save everyone some time.

Personally, I'm in dread guard / campaign so have no use for anything at all except the daily, so when I run flashpoints my goal is to complete them in the shortest possible time so that I can move on and do something more enjoyable. I've run every flashpoint loads of times and they are just tedious to me now. However, if someone said right at the start that they needed / wanted to do all trash pulls / bosses, then at least I can make a choice then and there and avoid later confrontation.
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Ansalem
12.13.2012 , 08:25 AM | #7
The only time I don't advocate for spacebarring and skipping is if it is someones first time. Then I'm more than willing to take my time and help them enjoy the run. But honestly I'm not there for other people. I pay my sub and when Im doing a HM fp its to only do my daily and get out. I have zero need for hm fps outside of the hardmode daily 5 bh comm reward.

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Xatasha
12.13.2012 , 08:27 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansalem View Post
The only time I don't advocate for spacebarring and skipping is if it is someones first time. Then I'm more than willing to take my time and help them enjoy the run. But honestly I'm not there for other people. I pay my sub and when Im doing a HM fp its to only do my daily and get out. I have zero need for hm fps outside of the hardmode daily 5 bh comm reward.
If you are not there to play with others then maybe an MMO is not for you. Just saying there is a reason it is an MMO and most everyone in your group is paying real money to be there

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Pirana
12.13.2012 , 08:31 AM | #9
As mentioned previously, communication is the key.

If you need Columi gear, mention it beforehand. Most people are usually accommodating, as we all went through the gear progression.
The Journey Is Often Greater Than The Destination - Pirana

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Zamppa
12.13.2012 , 08:32 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Cathest View Post
Play a bit longer and ull be skipping too
I'm a founder who has 4 50 levels and more coming and I still want to beat every boss in the HM so people who might need drops can get them. And those drops are free 10 000+ creds if one does not need them and sell them. I know how to skip most useless thrash in every single HM and I also do it when people do not want to do bonus bosses but I'm currently gearing up my newest 50 level and would like to do all the bosses for crystals, daily comms and drops.

Skipping useless thrash is okey, skipping Black Talon/Esseles boring convos is okey, but skipping all bosses is not when I think of it. Geared and skilled players beat those midlevel bosses on HMs in one minute, it's not like their day will be ruined if the HM takes 5 more minutes to beat.
"What can you say - I'm a talented individual"
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