Pay2Win Space Missions ???

The MMO genre used to be a great equalizer. Where the rich and the poor came together on equal footing, and interacted in ways that stripped them of any predisposed class separations.

It is either an unfortunate side effect, or a direct goal, that cash shops should create divides in real world financial classes within the MMO genre.

And it's sad.
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I was really looking forward to the new space missions but these ship gear packs ruined the whole update for me. It's not just the new missions, in a sense the whole space subgame is now ruined by being too greedy.

Where is the sense of progress and achievement when you can get the best items for 10 bucks.

This is the first time I've actually considered changing my 6 month sub to something shorter. They promised and promised but its now pretty clear they don't understand where the line should be drawn. This put a serious dent in my faith for the future of the game.

You do realize that a huge portion of wows population is Chinese accounts? You do realize that the game is more established than this game and has 9 years under it's belt? You do realize that even if the game does release a bad expansion people will still play it because of time invested? It takes a long time for an MMO to die. You do realize it dropped over 2 million subs in the past year right? K.

We aint talking about cosmetics, unlocks etc... I have no issues with lifeday items or any other cartel market item.

We are talking about "Pay2win" which is the purchasing of top level itemistaion for real money, circumventing all ingame efforts/competition to acquire said gear.

Ingame, acquiring Grade 7 Spaceship Items ... will cost you 300k credits, 1500 Fleet Comms and 300 Daily Comms to get all the non-schematic parts. Then additional cost for craftables, patterns etc.

Well to be perfectly honest you can always go that route in other games. I bought tons of gold to use in wow so I wouldn't have to run dailies, especially in bc and woltk. I didn't buy any in cataclysm cause I didn't like the changes Blizzard did to the game. Had BW not allowed you to buy the parts directly people would just buy credits from third parties and so long as the parts aren't bop and can be bought on gtm you can circumvent the repetitive dailies.

As for game companies banning players who buy gold/credits it rarely happens. They don't bite the hand that is feeding them. They go after gold farmers and sellers, but very rarely gold buyers. In fact, you could buy gold in wow now and you will never get banned. The same is true of botting. At the end the only thing that matters for them is the bottom line, cash. Thus, you won't get banned for buying credits. At worst, they just get rid of some of your stuff or give you temp ban. Personally, I never gotten a warning of any kind when comes to gold buying. I even did it in swg in the early days besides it's just pve. I only consider p2w if it involves pvp.

So you can make cash to buy the items off the GTN... by doing daily's. To circumvent the repetitive daily's.
I dont even.

It's faster. It would take a month or two in bc of farming and selling crafted goods for hours each day to make 5k-10k or you can buy 30k off a gold seller in 5 minutes. In two days you have 30k. The max I had was around 55k in bc, which is a lot of gold for back then. Ironically, I had more gold in bc than what I did in woltk or cataclysm.

Well to be perfectly honest you can always go that route in other games. I bought tons of gold to use in wow so I wouldn't have to run dailies, especially in bc and woltk. I didn't buy any in cataclysm cause I didn't like the changes Blizzard did to the game. Had BW not allowed you to buy the parts directly people would just buy credits from third parties and so long as the parts aren't bop and can be bought on gtm you can circumvent the repetitive dailies.

As for game companies banning players who buy gold/credits it rarely happens. They don't bite the hand that is feeding them. They go after gold farmers and sellers, but very rarely gold buyers. In fact, you could buy gold in wow now and you will never get banned. The same is true of botting. At the end the only thing that matters for them is the bottom line, cash. Thus, you won't get banned for buying credits. At worst, they just get rid of some of your stuff or give you temp ban. Personally, I never gotten a warning of any kind when comes to gold buying. I even did it in swg in the early days besides it's just pve. I only consider p2w if it involves pvp.

Am I reading and understanding the following right....


Grade 7 items I know of ingame cost a huge amount of daily / fleet commendations as well as pricey craftable objects... so giving them out day 1 of the new heroic space missions, in a Cartel pack...
circumventing all ingame crafting/grinding by throwing real world money at them...
is that not by definition "Pay2Win" Space Missions ???

Pay 2 Win space missions you say? I didn't realise space PvP was part of 1.6...oh wait

So you are QQing that you have an option to purchase grade 7 comps from the CS....you are also QQing that you have the option to grind them out in game for no real world money.

It would take what, maybe a month to farm all the comms to buy grade 7 comp's....a bit like it takes a month or two to farm the comms etc for the best raid / PvP gear in the game.

Should the best space gear in the game not also take maybe a month to farm? Or do away with the grind and buy them...

Not sure what the problem is here tbh....

Driz