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Going darkside shouldnt make you ugly

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Going darkside shouldnt make you ugly

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Trixdope
12.06.2012 , 02:28 AM | #1
Why is it in bioware games they make you look ugly when you go darkside? (Scaley skin, Veins on face, Pale skin, ect.)

There has been plenty of sith who looked perfectly normal when gone to the darkside until they get disfigured someway wether it be a fight or something else.

-Anakin Ep.III
-Revan
-Count dooku
-Exar kun
-Palpatine (prior to mace windu's work)
-Darth maul
-Cadeus
-Zannah
-Bane
-Talon
-Ulic Qel Droma
-Bastila (short time but still)


The list can go on forever.

other than getting yellow eyes, people don't become fugly just by going darkside so why do we in all these bioware SW games?

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Zaxem
12.06.2012 , 02:30 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Trixdope View Post
Why is it in bioware games they make you look ugly when you go darkside? (Scaley skin, Veins on face, Pale skin, ect.)

There has been plenty of sith who looked perfectly normal when gone to the darkside until they get disfigured someway wether it be a fight or something else.

-Anakin Ep.III
-Revan
-Count dooku
-Exar kun
-Palpatine (prior to mace windu's work)
-Darth maul
-Cadeus
-Zannah
-Bane
-Talon
-Ulic Qel Droma
-Bastila (short time but still)


The list can go on forever.

other than getting yellow eyes, people don't become fugly just by going darkside so why do we in all these bioware SW games?
to give a people a reason to get their dark side meter as high as they can for looks that's the only reason i do 100% dark side since i love how the corruption looks
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chuixupu
12.06.2012 , 02:42 AM | #3
You can hide the corruption effect.
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Scathe
12.06.2012 , 03:16 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Trixdope View Post
Why is it in bioware games they make you look ugly when you go darkside? (Scaley skin, Veins on face, Pale skin, ect.)

There has been plenty of sith who looked perfectly normal when gone to the darkside until they get disfigured someway wether it be a fight or something else.

-Anakin Ep.III
-Revan
-Count dooku
-Exar kun
-Palpatine (prior to mace windu's work)
-Darth maul
-Cadeus
-Zannah
-Bane
-Talon
-Ulic Qel Droma
-Bastila (short time but still)


The list can go on forever.

other than getting yellow eyes, people don't become fugly just by going darkside so why do we in all these bioware SW games?
Anakin hadn't completely fallen by Episode III, so he wasn't as affected by the corruption as others. I seriously think that the sulfuric eyes was just for dramatic effect since the whole, "I'm evil now I get yellow eyes for one shot" doesn't work. Especially since after that scene his eyes go back to being brown until he finally yells "I hate you" at Obi-Wan.

We don't know how Revan's face looked after being corrupted by the Dark Side since it was covered by a mask. Going by TOR isn't a good judge of it since at that point he had been redeemed and was walking in both the light and the dark.

Dooku also was not fully submerged into the Dark Side, the corruption had not affected him as badly as it had other Sith.

Exar Kun/Ulic Qel-Droma were created before it became Canon that the yellow eyes were a result of the Dark Side corruption, so of course they didn't turn ugly. At least, I think that they were, if someone can prove me wrong, I'd gladly change this.

Palpatine is debatable since people have been speculating that it wasn't just Mace's work that turned him into a wrinkled old man, but a Force power that hid his true form from others and that the duel with Windu ended up tearing that mask away and revealing his true corruption. When you really think about it, and watch Ep. III, it's kind of quick and convenient that Old Slimy's face and body suddenly turn into an old wrinkly mess without being blackened by the intense heat that being electrocuted should cause, not to mention his clothes remain untouched.

Maul had the yellow eyes, but as with Anakin, wasn't steeped so far into the Dark Side that corruption could have reached him and started to deform him. That takes years of devotion and steeping yourself into it to reach the level that Sidious did.

For Cadeus, Bastila and Talon, see above. A little less so Bastila since I doubt she was even dark enough to gain the yellowed eyes.

Bane. Well, look at the picture http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane and tell me that aint' butt-**** ugly. Dark Side corruption baby, all the way. Zannah was beginning to feel the beginnings of it by the end of her Apprenticeship with Bane, but we never got to see how she ended up looking. Same thing with Cognus, and Millenial, and Rivan. So Zannah could have ended up as withered looking as Zash, who is another candidate for the "Palpatine used a Force technique to hide his appearance" debate.

Also, quoted from the wiki on Dark Side corruption: "Many darksiders experienced a change in the pigmentation of their eyes, as their normal eye color would transform into a luminous, sulfuric yellow. Often the skin would also lose pigmentation, becoming pale and mottled while veins became increasingly visible. The hair would also lose color, making it appear as though the darksider was aging rapidly. The user's voice would also be altered, becoming a few pitches lower and raspier."

Hope this adds fuel to the fire.
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Trixdope
12.06.2012 , 08:29 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Scathe View Post
Anakin hadn't completely fallen by Episode III, so he wasn't as affected by the corruption as others. I seriously think that the sulfuric eyes was just for dramatic effect since the whole, "I'm evil now I get yellow eyes for one shot" doesn't work. Especially since after that scene his eyes go back to being brown until he finally yells "I hate you" at Obi-Wan.

We don't know how Revan's face looked after being corrupted by the Dark Side since it was covered by a mask. Going by TOR isn't a good judge of it since at that point he had been redeemed and was walking in both the light and the dark.

Dooku also was not fully submerged into the Dark Side, the corruption had not affected him as badly as it had other Sith.

Exar Kun/Ulic Qel-Droma were created before it became Canon that the yellow eyes were a result of the Dark Side corruption, so of course they didn't turn ugly. At least, I think that they were, if someone can prove me wrong, I'd gladly change this.

Palpatine is debatable since people have been speculating that it wasn't just Mace's work that turned him into a wrinkled old man, but a Force power that hid his true form from others and that the duel with Windu ended up tearing that mask away and revealing his true corruption. When you really think about it, and watch Ep. III, it's kind of quick and convenient that Old Slimy's face and body suddenly turn into an old wrinkly mess without being blackened by the intense heat that being electrocuted should cause, not to mention his clothes remain untouched.

Maul had the yellow eyes, but as with Anakin, wasn't steeped so far into the Dark Side that corruption could have reached him and started to deform him. That takes years of devotion and steeping yourself into it to reach the level that Sidious did.

For Cadeus, Bastila and Talon, see above. A little less so Bastila since I doubt she was even dark enough to gain the yellowed eyes.

Bane. Well, look at the picture http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane and tell me that aint' butt-**** ugly. Dark Side corruption baby, all the way. Zannah was beginning to feel the beginnings of it by the end of her Apprenticeship with Bane, but we never got to see how she ended up looking. Same thing with Cognus, and Millenial, and Rivan. So Zannah could have ended up as withered looking as Zash, who is another candidate for the "Palpatine used a Force technique to hide his appearance" debate.

Also, quoted from the wiki on Dark Side corruption: "Many darksiders experienced a change in the pigmentation of their eyes, as their normal eye color would transform into a luminous, sulfuric yellow. Often the skin would also lose pigmentation, becoming pale and mottled while veins became increasingly visible. The hair would also lose color, making it appear as though the darksider was aging rapidly. The user's voice would also be altered, becoming a few pitches lower and raspier."

Hope this adds fuel to the fire.
Good post but i don't agree with some of those characters you said wernt steeped to far into the darkside to get the effects. Especially Maul who is probably the darkest out of any of them other than palpatine. And as far as Bane he was just butt *** ugly to begin with, But still besides the ugliness he was born with he didn't gain any from the darkside just got the yellow eyes.

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Scathe
12.06.2012 , 10:06 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Trixdope View Post
Good post but i don't agree with some of those characters you said wernt steeped to far into the darkside to get the effects. Especially Maul who is probably the darkest out of any of them other than palpatine. And as far as Bane he was just butt *** ugly to begin with, But still besides the ugliness he was born with he didn't gain any from the darkside just got the yellow eyes.
While I concede that Bane wasn't the best looking guy before the corruption hit him, he was affected with it. It manifested in a twitch in his hand that showed a future degeneration had he not been killed. It wasn't just his yellow eyes, that twitch/throbbing was the beginning of his corruption. Even Zannah began to have it.

As for Maul, no, he wasn't deeply steeped into the Dark Side to gain the effects of the corruption. Maul was a force of pure hatred and anger, he was nothing but a brute, an animal. Even Dooku says this. He was not a user of great Force techniques like lightning, he was a duelist, a fighter, a warrior. Arguably, so was Bane, but the difference between them was that Bane actually steeped himself into not just the phyiscal aspects of the Dark Side, but also the Force side.
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_Darkstar
12.06.2012 , 11:26 AM | #7
All your non film characters can go swim because most people don't know them. The only fully dark side person in the films was the Emperor, and he was ugly.
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Rauzgriz
12.06.2012 , 08:40 PM | #9
So far as I know, the appearance changes were due to how far into the dark side you were, but an equally significant thing was how you used the force. For example, lightning is inherently corruptive, as it causes intense pain and agony to its target and almost always requires calling directly upon the dark side (though there are exceptions). Something like force push however, is completely neutral, because its basic telekinesis that most force users can do. But force push can be corruptive, if you use your hate and passions to fuel it.

Maul didnt have all that corrupted of an appearance because he was mostly a lightsaber duelist and (in the movies anyway) almost never used the force, at least in a direct exertion of power. This essentially means that somebody that is a dark sider but doesnt actually use dark side powers all that often wont have as much of a sinister appearance.

With Palpatine and Zannah, Its quite possible that they simply used sorcery to conceal their true appearance, something that seems even more likely when you consider how in the inquisitor storyline, Zash suddenly goes from normal looking to absolutely hideous.

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wainot-keel
12.07.2012 , 01:05 PM | #10
Yeah, I personally don't like the flesh eating bacteria thing on faces. I spend quite some time making them look good and it's never on one only iteration

As for the lore/in-game/whatever justification for my DS character looking good even full dark, well, they're simply vain and they wont allow to look themselves fugly.
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