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Goretzu

12.06.2012 , 04:26 AM \| #51	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight Wow, you made my text tiny. That somehow made me feel inferior, so now i had to do this. See what you made me do? Er... ok. Anything to add about the point that there ARE too many unplanned bugfix-fix patches?
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OddballEasyEight

12.06.2012 , 04:27 AM \| #52	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu Er... ok. Anything to add about the point that there ARE too many unplanned bugfix-fix patches? Better they fix their mistakes immediately than waiting for a week to fix them in the next maintenance (which is usually what companies do, hence the reason why others dont have as many "quickfix" downtimes).
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Goretzu

12.06.2012 , 04:31 AM \| #53	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight Better they fix their mistakes immediately than waiting for a week to fix them in the next maintenance (which is usually what companies do, hence the reason why others dont have as many "quickfix" downtimes). Hmm.... no not really, I agree they do fix them pretty quickly, but they are the sort of bugs no MMORPG would (or could) leave for too long. They do however leave a lot of bugs for a while (the companion preview window has been broken since F2P, for example - and still is broke, I just checked - or the inspect PC feature for that matter - still broken too) when they aren't causing direct problems. But the point is this bugs that need to be fixed quickly shouldn't be going Live in the first place, as they don't in most other MMORPGs. I was pretty patient with this aspect for a long time (a lot of the people I came to SWTOR quit citing excessive downtime as part of their reason), but I think I've largely reached the limit of my tolerance with it. Clearly it's a systemic management flaw, they seem to just be pushing stuff Live (maybe to meet deadlines) and fixing it Live, rather than fixing it first.
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symke

12.06.2012 , 04:46 AM \| #54	Quote
I would rather have two hours of maintenance every day if that would mean that we would get fixes sooner. The only thing that worries me about that is those two hours they need for 1 fix. It's always 2 or 4 hours. Why? What do they have to do that takes them that long EVERY time? I think that if they would change the way they do maintenance and would publish fixes daily but with much, much less downtime, ti would be best.

ckoneful

12.06.2012 , 04:51 AM \| #55	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu Hmm.... no not really, I agree they do fix them pretty quickly, but they are the sort of bugs no MMORPG would (or could) leave for too long. They do however leave a lot of bugs for a while (the companion preview window has been broken since F2P, for example - and still is broke, I just checked - or the inspect PC feature for that matter - still broken too) when they aren't causing direct problems. But the point is this bugs that need to be fixed quickly shouldn't be going Live in the first place, as they don't in most other MMORPGs. I was pretty patient with this aspect for a long time (a lot of the people I came to SWTOR quit citing excessive downtime as part of their reason), but I think I've largely reached the limit of my tolerance with it. Clearly it's a systemic management flaw, they seem to just be pushing stuff Live (maybe to meet deadlines) and fixing it Live, rather than fixing it first. What "other mmos"? Pretty much every MMO I've played has downtime within a few days of every major patch. I don't think WoW has EVER had a patch without any problems, and they have people actually testing. Also, you want bugs fixed? PLAY THE PTS AND REPORT THEM! If no one plays the PTS then of course bugs will make it to live.

Goretzu

12.06.2012 , 04:58 AM \| #56	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ckoneful What "other mmos"? Pretty much every MMO I've played has downtime within a few days of every major patch. I don't think WoW has EVER had a patch without any problems, and they have people actually testing. Also, you want bugs fixed? PLAY THE PTS AND REPORT THEM! If no one plays the PTS then of course bugs will make it to live. UO, EQ1, DAoC, AO, AoC, PS, EQ2, EvE, WoW (pre-WOTLK), LOTRO, even WAR (), none had as much unscheduled down time. Fair enough SWTOR has less server crash problems than many of those did, but then so do most MMORPGs these days compared to 10+ years ago. As to the public test server, this is my point; many do get caught and reported on there, and they get pushed Live anyway, a better system that would catch more would be a permenant test server, but that still wouldn't matter if their management policy is to push non-server crashing bugs Live and then fix them. I mean really is there nothing Bioware EA can do to reduce on their downtime to fix downtime changes? I very much doubt it.
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Kophar

12.06.2012 , 05:46 AM \| #57	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by DuckKing Why does this game have so much maintenance all the time. I could have sworn we had maintencance tuesday right? Can't we have maintenance ONE time out of the week? I assume you want your game bugs fixed like everyone else in any game. Chill.
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DuckKing

12.06.2012 , 05:47 AM \| #58	Quote
Who *********** cares if anyone thinks im whining about maintenance. Who cares if it lasted 5 minutes, I wanna play TOR. I honestly don't even have to play this mediocre MMO cause thats what I think it is. So what will you have me rather do, whine about why theres maintenance all the time or just pack my bags and bail on TOR like 1 million people did and not even support this game. You're call White Knights. I get that it's to fix minor bugs, all I wanted to know was why are they bringing down the servers at the time and why they do this all the time at the most convenient times when I choose to play this game.

Kophar

12.06.2012 , 05:49 AM \| #59	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu UO, EQ1, DAoC, AO, AoC, PS, EQ2, EvE, WoW (pre-WOTLK), LOTRO, even WAR (), none had as much unscheduled down time. Ahahah, hilarious. Ahh, the short memory of peeps is unbelivable.
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Kophar

12.06.2012 , 05:55 AM \| #60	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by DuckKing Who *********** cares if anyone thinks im whining about maintenance. Who cares if it lasted 5 minutes, I wanna play TOR. I honestly don't even have to play this mediocre MMO cause thats what I think it is. So what will you have me rather do, whine about why theres maintenance all the time or just pack my bags and bail on TOR like 1 million people did and not even support this game. You're call White Knights. I get that it's to fix minor bugs, all I wanted to know was why are they bringing down the servers at the time and why they do this all the time at the most convenient times when I choose to play this game. O.o, ok.. let me get this right. 1 - You want to play TOR but at the same time you dnt have too cause its a mediocre game? 2 - So, since you dnt have nothing to do and alltough you acknowledged that its to fix minor bugs you complain nevertheless? Point 2 brings me up to point 1. Uhmmm.. So basically you are bored cause you cant play TOR and just camed to forums to troll around.
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