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NO Addons please. There is another solution!


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ChefTuz
01.23.2012 , 04:11 PM | #371
Quote: Originally Posted by Makais View Post
As for the meters, I have a suggestion: an <End Flashpoint/Operation Report>, just like in the end of Warzones. Voilá, you can consult who's doing their jobs right. DPS, Healing, Protection, MVP vote also (why not?)... It's all there.
I like this idea with one small addition. The tabs at the bottom should separate individual boss encounters.

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Excedrin
01.23.2012 , 05:43 PM | #372
Quote: Originally Posted by Thyferra View Post
I would rather see Bioware implements all these tools themself (sic) then someone from the outside does it. This way Bioware could give us information like our dps but keep other stuff hidden from us that would make encounters too predictable.
You would rather that Bioware implement all these tools because you know they'll never get to it in a timely fashion.

Personally, if I was Bioware I'd be embarrassed that a bunch of nerds in their basements could design parts of the UI better than I could. That really goes for other developers as well (hi Bethesda).
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Innocentone
01.23.2012 , 06:41 PM | #373
Addons are not needed. Bioware is arleady making UI customization soon. But we can do without meters. Players are already clearing content without them . I for one will keep fighting to keep meters out of the game. It just brings to much unwanted drama. I can carry myself in raids and groups. Its annoying seeing another person getting yelled at over what the meters are showing. We don't need any drama in swtor. So devs if your reading this please no meters. Keep the drama out of the game.

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MatthewMystery
01.26.2012 , 02:17 PM | #374
I am a fan of mods but i understand logic of ppl who are not but could this not be solved by divideing servers as they do pvp pve to mod no mod servers?

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iCanUseTheForce
01.26.2012 , 02:29 PM | #375
Quote: Originally Posted by OrionBurger View Post
Why exactly do you not want addons available? If you don't like them, don't use them.
It's not about using them. Their existance changes the game. That's a fact. I played WoW (as I'm sure many of you did) and I hated the almighty damage meter deciding which class is best by fractions of percentages and healbot making healing uninteresting. I'm all about customizing the UI, allowing better access to the tools provided by Bioware. They are on top of many things WoW didn't offer by default (ie - map coordinates) and they will learn what needs to be added and what doesn't. But please, I don't want the 1337's screaming about gearscores, dps toppers, and stupid crap like that. I'd rather we tailor our playing to the content, not make Bio adjust the content because our add-ons are making beating an Operation a brag fest rather than an enjoyable ride.

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zImperium
01.26.2012 , 02:44 PM | #376
The thing about addons and mods isn't about using or not using them, its that they become part of the culture. If you introduce addons and mods, it will initially be kind of tame, because there won't be many. However, eventually, groups will start requiring them: EPGP, DKP, Meters, Bar Customers, Heal Bot, etc. If you don't have X mod, you're bad.

Addons and Mods caused a scourge on the game because it promoted lazy gameplay. There's addons to automatically choose the next skill in your rotation. There's addons to notify you when this big orb is heading in your direction. There's addons to notify you when you're stepping in stuff you shouldn't.

The problem with Pandora's Box is not the fact that there's a lot of good uses for them, its the fact that introducing Addons and Mods opens up the floodgates to every type of mod. From the spam bots, to the easy healing/dps mods, to the mods that help bots figure out what to do and prevent GMs from noticing that they are bots.

The problem is the people that are yelling "for" the mods/addons to be enabled aren't looking at the big picture. The problem with the people yelling "against" the mods/addons don't realize that they are arguing with "because I don't want them" doesn't provide a subjective point of view.
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Anttonen
01.26.2012 , 03:12 PM | #377
I really wish, that they add some alternative to recount in this game. My trooper is almost fully rakata geared and i want to know, how much dps i can do, compared to other classes.

Dps race is one of the most fun parts of any mmo game for me.

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FobManX
01.26.2012 , 03:17 PM | #378
I like the idea of an in game boss damage report. It'd be nifty if it also showed your damage/DPS per attempt so you can see what you did wrong or differently on each attempt. Being a Sentinel I've been messing around with different specs trying to see what's most optimal but without some kind of damage meters it's tough.

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nostdurell
01.26.2012 , 10:40 PM | #379
i'm brand new to mmo's. never paid attention to them until swtor came out. so i don't get the lingo whatsoever. i do know the only thing i added on was the force power windows. one row on the left, two at the bottom, one at the right. that's all i know about add-ons. so far, it's been great. except for outleveled pvp scenario's. then they camp out next to you. do it again. that's my only complaint. some part are hard, okay, get some help. and if it's not fun, please stop playing, or blaming bioware. it ruins it for everyone. you need help, find someone to help you finish the end content. or google it. see what predecessors did. get ideas. this game is brand new to all, so it's time to stop blaming things for shortcomings. have fun, or quit. tired of seeing complaints. the forums are a place to ask how others did stuff so you get an idea when stuck.

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nostdurell
01.26.2012 , 11:12 PM | #380
i'm sorry. that was directed towards someone with no avatar that is always complaining about the game. no highlights. just complaints. can't tell which non-avatar it is, but it's one of the non-avatars. there's a couple of them. these few have no avatar. probably to disguise and confuse the complaining. i'm sure some non-avatars are happy. but a select few aren't, and it's incessant non stop bickering about the game, and i got fed up with it.