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Developer Update: Heroic Space Missions

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Developer Update: Heroic Space Missions
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veyl
11.28.2012 , 08:01 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSchmo View Post
FYI. It is and was always advertised as a mini game. It's our only one at that, and it's a pretty damn good one too. Would rather 1 mini game, or none? And these missions will always be here. Even if sssp comes to light these will always be available so get over it.

I don't understand the mentality of "I don't like, take it out of the game." I don't care for pvp, but I'm not in the pvp forum asking it to be removed.
Just an FYI: Even in Beta it was laughed at and demanded to be something else (Free roaming). Majority of Beta testers did NOT want the minigame. Yes I'd rather have that development time/cost that wentt towards that minigame that no one wanted put towards something useful. Unfortunately, we can't go back in time and shake some damn sense into the original stubborn development team. THe only time I said that it shouldn't be in the game//taken out WAS IN BETA WHEN FEEDBACK WAS REQUIRED. Hard concept to understand? Apparently it is. Again. That feedback was in BETA and should've been listened to then.

Continuing to tell the NEW development team that they are STILL going in the wrong direction is absolutely warranted. All of the hours put into making these new heroic space missions could've went towards a space design that players actually want and unfortunately, your desired mini game is NOT what the majority of players want.

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DJHawk
11.28.2012 , 08:23 PM | #52
Im very sorry about this i dont usually contribute to anything like this but i really think you should scrap your space stuff and start again.It is very reminisciant of the atari st back in the 90's and that is a slur on the atari st to be honest as most space games allowed you to fly freely even back in the 90's.Im sorry but your space section of the game just doesnt come close to cutting it.We want 3d space not some pathetic little sprite ship.We want the freedome to roam where we please encountering other pvp players and roaming for missions.Sorry but please delete space.

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metalgearyoda
11.28.2012 , 08:25 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by DJHawk View Post
Im very sorry about this i dont usually contribute to anything like this but i really think you should scrap your space stuff and start again.It is very reminisciant of the atari st back in the 90's and that is a slur on the atari st to be honest as most space games allowed you to fly freely even back in the 90's
eh. You had more control over your ship in galaga.
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Selvec
11.28.2012 , 08:36 PM | #54
Oh wow, really stretched the creative muscle there ha Bioware? Add more targets to existing space missions, and make the health of enemies larger.

So this will be the same 6 or so missions with jpeg background, but now with slightly harder enemies. Will you really blow us away next update and release REVERSE rail versions of these missions? Oh boy I can't wait!
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Alynore
11.28.2012 , 08:48 PM | #55
All I can do is sigh, simply because from day one, and even now BioWare has yet to learn their lesson on why they are failing. LISTEN to your customers. Before launch, people complained about the space missions. The space mission are so redundant they are boring. You keep doing the SAME missions over and over again, maybe with a slightly different view, but its the SAME mission none the less.

You created Mass Effect 3 BioWare, and it has the ability to fly a ship from planet to planet, and even as cheesy as the graphics might be for that flight path; its much better than what we have here.

Lets have some UNIQUE missions. You tell us there is new space missions, but there is nothing new about them. They are the same old missions with a different difficulty. It feels like now, you are tossing what you can together as fast as you can so you don't break the six week deadline for new content.

Again, I doubt this will be read and simply ignored like every other person who has protested space missions.

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Prokaryote
11.28.2012 , 08:48 PM | #56
I think you guys are forgetting the fact that the original KOTOR games both had space combat as a teeny-tiny minigame, and still, those turned out to be great, story-driven games. You shouldn't have been expecting anything more, this was supposed to be a KOTOR 3, except with other people playing. I agree, however, that they advertise space combat as something more than it really was, and perhaps that led people to become angry when it turned out that it wasn't actually a huge component in the overall game. Still, I am content with the, er, content of this little minigame, and little improvements are appreciated. Sure, they could be improving the main game, but it's not like these are extremely time-consuming changes. I'd be more upset if they were trying to add more features than what they are adding now, with the current problems that exist in the main game, but this is harmless.

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drosalion
11.28.2012 , 09:02 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by JediCahlwyn View Post
Can you PLEASE change how Proton Torps work? Often I can't destroy targets because I can't fire missiles (even though I have 150 of them) because it wants to lock a torp. I either don't have time to establish a lock and/or I'm out of torps.

Can you make it a toggle? SOMETHING?

Thanks for the news though, I love the space battles and can't wait. My ONLY complaints are:

Torpedo/Missile on the same button (see above)
and
Reused missions. I hate that. I wish you'd have created unique ones. Its bad enough to have to repeat many on a daily basis for comms, but to do some twice is killer.
This ^

They need to be fireable via a different button than right click. It is just flat out poor game design and has been in since beta. This needs to change, especially if a greater emphasis is put on them in these newer missions.

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GavinSteelheart
11.28.2012 , 09:02 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Prokaryote View Post
I think you guys are forgetting the fact that the original KOTOR games both had space combat as a teeny-tiny minigame, and still, those turned out to be great, story-driven games. You shouldn't have been expecting anything more, this was supposed to be a KOTOR 3, except with other people playing..
It does not matter what Bioware intended for it to be, it matters what it will become. The customers who spend money on it every month and now even more with the cartel cash drive the game. They say they listen to us. If I was them I would look at what the majority of the players are asking for. For every positive comment in favor of the rail system I see five negative ones. And the positive ones or more or less "just ok" with the mini games and not exactly space fighting players. I am myself OK with the rail missions staying in by all means but I do not want the future of space to stay on a rail system. Keep the current and new missions coming out as a mini game as a way to earn commendations but use the suggestions I gave in my earlier post as a guide on how to make it even better, and the overall game a nice overall star wars balanced mmorpg that will continue to thrive in the future of its online life. Overall the game's direction is more focused on what we want as a customer. That is how you must approach this issue since they ask for feedback give it to them!

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Baever
11.28.2012 , 09:34 PM | #59
Heroic space missions? The same 4 different missions that already exist, or will there actually be some variation now?
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Valentuhr
11.28.2012 , 09:49 PM | #60
I enjoyed the time I had getting the commendations to get full Imperial Pilot gear for myself and for my companion. If any devs get the chance, maybe now would be the time to implement the Imperial Ace Pilot set into these heroic missions. For those who do not know this set, it is worn by many of the pilot NPC's in-game. The files I believe were once apart of the game but were removed. Still, that would be a huge motivation for some people like me who love pilot gear!

PS: Also add "Ace-Pilot" title to a character after completing them!
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