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Da Big Hitters: Attacks & Heals

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Da Big Hitters: Attacks & Heals

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L-RANDLE
11.28.2012 , 04:13 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by yauhen_pt View Post
my full wh aug assassin 600 dmg bonus/75-76 crit mult (with buff) till the moment was not able to hit ANY1 with deathfield for 5k, maximum i did is 4k (a bit higher). this is with plus 30% to crit multipl (105%). any suggestions?
Your bonus damage is too low.... Need to look into remodding stack power/surge.. Might also be a spec issue as you "should" have the ability to outpace a Sorc with DF as long as you are in Lite Charge.

For Sorc: stack power/surge, 7/6/28(or some slight variation) ftw!!
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CharterMonkKent
11.28.2012 , 04:19 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Sorry Charter,
Didn't mean to turn this into an smash debate for the 20th bazillionth time....


Lets talk about happier subjects like the upcoming operative nerf...
Haha no worries. It's a topic that's hard to avoid on the forums. Funny I never hear my anyone on vent complain about it though... Haha. Those are the breaks. The only comment in game we make about sweep/ smash is holy hell jiraya (I think that's his name) hit me for 6.7k... Next comment is, focus him down. Every time he is out of spawn.
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CharterMonkKent
11.28.2012 , 04:21 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Your bonus damage is too low.... Need to look into remodding stack power/surge.. Might also be a spec issue as you "should" have the ability to outpace a Sorc with DF as long as you are in Lite Charge.

For Sorc: stack power/surge, 7/6/28(or some slight variation) ftw!!
This is a great side effect of this thread. Helping others... Can't believe it happening.

But for real, keep it up.
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L-RANDLE
11.28.2012 , 04:22 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Altheran View Post
Why everybody should especially spec for AoE debuffs because of one spec while all other AoE specs doesn't need it to be countered, and would become destroyed by these AoE debuffs ?

And as for "Don't say in melee range", you know it doesn't make sense ? Melee AC have to be in melee to fight you, and so come naturally into your range. If everyone should flee you, and the only one who should be allowed to fight you must be your mirror bearing the same destructive power, then there is clearly something wrong about balance whatever the class we would be speaking of. I'd say the same if the only class able to defeat a Shadow would be the same Shadow.
Staying in melee for any extended amount of time for ANY class is not a good idea.. Even Melee on Melee. Im a Guardian..
When I want to be in melee: Healers =100%, Range=100%, melee.....ummmmm I wan to dictate when I am in melee.. so if I see a possible smash coming, i'm leaping elsewhere. Yes, even melee shouldn't stay in melee 100% of the time, even before all this smash QQ started... If you stay in the face of a melee you deserve to get smoked. Its just like eating the last tick of MS/RAV.

Its objective PvP, buying time is the goal on offense or defense. People need to worry about staying alive more and completing objectives. Playing a Sage for so long gave me SO many tools to be better at staying alive...
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Altheran
11.28.2012 , 04:27 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Staying in melee for any extended amount of time for ANY class is not a good idea.. Even Melee on Melee. Im a Guardian..
When I want to be in melee: Healers =100%, Range=100%, melee.....ummmmm I wan to dictate when I am in melee.. so if I see a possible smash coming, i'm leaping elsewhere. Yes, even melee shouldn't stay in melee 100% of the time, even before all this smash QQ started... If you stay in the face of a melee you deserve to get smoked. Its just like eating the last tick of MS/RAV.
Said this way, okay. The way you said it earlier had another meaning for me.

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L-RANDLE
11.28.2012 , 04:31 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Altheran View Post
Said this way, okay. The way you said it earlier had another meaning for me.
Sorry for the confusion... Its just funny two ranged classes and a Juggy jump me at mid in CW last night. I promply sweep all of them for 5k... Then they decide to statter like roaches.

I mean can you make it any easier for me?

Its a good focus deterrent in my book, especially since the other attacks are not nearly as strong, at least on the juggy/guard side...
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PoliteAssasin
11.28.2012 , 04:33 PM | #57
Your list is missing merciless slash and annihilate for sentinels/marauders.
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yauhen_pt
11.28.2012 , 04:42 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Your bonus damage is too low.... Need to look into remodding stack power/surge.. Might also be a spec issue as you "should" have the ability to outpace a Sorc with DF as long as you are in Lite Charge.

For Sorc: stack power/surge, 7/6/28(or some slight variation) ftw!!
oh, i made mistake, that is melee bonus^^. force is more than 800 (dont remeber exact value, have to check). i can go more power and more surge, namelly i can increase surge up to 78% and power to get 40-50 more to bonus, but it will never give me plus 1k to deathfield (and ill lose accuracy / crit).. concerning sorcs..i think they have plus 5% to willpower.

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CharterMonkKent
11.28.2012 , 04:51 PM | #59
Ok folks. I've updated the list. Let me know if there are any changes that need to be made.
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Invictusthetaru
11.28.2012 , 04:53 PM | #60
Do Sorcs / sages know they can cleanse force crush, and thus eliminate 1 of warriors way to get singularity?

Anywho, my contribution will only account for my fully war hero characters-

Ambush- 5k def, same with Quickdraw (our finisher)

Speed shot- If every hit crits and we are not LoS'd (but it's like ravage, no single tick can hit that high)

Dispatch / vicious throw with max gear + veng "auto" crit

Meh on last tick of ravage, my highest is 4.5k on my WH guardian. Not BiS though.

Also I've had immolate crit for 4k+, never 5k, but my Vanguard is only in battlemaster with WH weapon.
Ladle- 65 Sentinel
Ladled- 65 Commando
Spinalcheck- 65 Scoundrel
Tongs-65 Gunslinger