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Da Big Hitters: Attacks & Heals

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Da Big Hitters: Attacks & Heals

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Xertasian
12.02.2012 , 05:48 PM | #91
well i have both a sage and sin...

well my sage hit for over 6k fib.have screenshot to prove it..this is after the adrenal nerfs..my sage hits over 5k easily on fib..but i have 1080 pvp bonus damage on sage..the ss of the 6k+ fib..

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/a..._05_306047.jpg


on my sin..in 32/1/8..i had 6k maul procs chain shocks up to 7k almost..in deception i hit 9k shocks 6k damage 3k chain effect..discharge i hit for 7k..i have 1030 pvp bonus damage on sin..gotta find the ss and load them. i post them probably later.

cuz we all know the deal..no ss it didnt happen..haha
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MidichIorian
12.02.2012 , 06:23 PM | #92
I might have reached +5K with DF/FiB back when adrenal stacking and stims were available but it hasnt happened since. I remember 4,8K but other than that I'd say that it's rare to even hit +4,5K. And if someone gets hit for 4,5K there's probably two in the same AEO who won't get hit for more than 3,5K. It can't be comepared to "other " AOE'es in the game >_>,

It should be added that I havent stacked power. I'm keeping my stats somewhat balanced since I re-spec a lot and don't want to totally screw over one spec.

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Ravashakk
12.02.2012 , 06:32 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
I'm not talking about other people...
You; and only You.
Player A: SMASH/SMASH/SMASH=dead
Player B: RAIL/RAIL/RAIL=dead


Maybe I will give the healers a pass, but most ACs got AoE heals so..... yeah don't feel sorry for them much either...
In most of your posts I've read, I always end up thinking you're a tool. This one is no different.
Your broken logic tries to compare a single target ability to an aoe ability that only hits 1 target to determine the level of overpoweredness. I'll even go along with your pointless comparison and say that the precursor for rail shot can be cleansed. No such remedy exists for smash. How about the fact that smash autocrits and rail shot doesn't? On top of that consider that smash will always hit harder. I can survive 3 rail shot crits, but I will prob die from 3 smashes. 3x5k is nothing compared to 3x6.5k.

I detect another warrior/knight fanboy trying to defend their broken class.

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Ravashakk
12.02.2012 , 06:40 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Tell them to stop gathering around like moths.... If your teammates are all getting blasted at the same time, there is something wrong... The people complaining about smashes are facetanking, when its obviously a bad idea. It also good deterrent to the "g-bang" that is SWTOR PvP.... So... Moral... tell your teammates to stop gathering at the flame, and don't be in melee range often... PvP Defense 101...
Because a tank guarding someone is almost always in smash range to transfer dmg. You know, the one ability in the game that makes guard look useless.

I know on your teams, each person has a 10m bubble no ally enters, but realistically ppl with half a brain cell know that ppl will be close in objective based pvp.

Enemy ball carrier is getting away...don't crowd him though, more than one player might get smashed by the other teams 4 warriors.
Why aren't you capping south? I can't click the console without being too close to someone else.
I can go on and on but it is not necessary.

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Ravashakk
12.02.2012 , 06:47 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Im a Guardian..
/shocked
As for your lolprediction of smash....what r u using? Precognition? You can't go by the animation anymore, the dmg hits before the animation. As for their buffs...they last long enough for them to close the gap and smash. Anyone that avoids smash nowadays is pure luck or they are playing someone bad.

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dalin
12.02.2012 , 07:37 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Xertasian View Post
well i have both a sage and sin...

well my sage hit for over 6k fib.have screenshot to prove it..this is after the adrenal nerfs..my sage hits over 5k easily on fib..but i have 1080 pvp bonus damage on sage..the ss of the 6k+ fib..

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/a..._05_306047.jpg


on my sin..in 32/1/8..i had 6k maul procs chain shocks up to 7k almost..in deception i hit 9k shocks 6k damage 3k chain effect..discharge i hit for 7k..i have 1030 pvp bonus damage on sin..gotta find the ss and load them. i post them probably later.

cuz we all know the deal..no ss it didnt happen..haha
When was this SS taken? Your HP is around BM level without augments. BM with augments is around 18k HP. So you either hit someone that was naked, or that was a really (adrenal stacking days) really long time ago. Sorcs rarely and I do mean rarely, break 4k on DF/FiB, let alone 5k. To see 6k, I'm thinking something is out of whack. I am not saying you're pants are on fire, but there is no way that damage was against a player wearing gear, let alone competitive gear.

Sad part is, Sins do more damage on force attacks than a Sorc does. That's Bioware balance for ya.

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Andrew_Past
12.02.2012 , 08:46 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by yauhen_pt View Post
btw if u added Ravage to warrior u can add "force lightning" to assassins, its rarely used since prevent yr movements (and quite useless for squishy dps assassin), but darkness assassins can crit with it around 5k (1600-1800 per tick). i have 3k "force lightning" base, and with madness spec can crit up to 6k (110% crit mult) or as darkness assassin with "hardness darkness" (dont remeber exact name of the ability) plus reckless it should b eve higher, however its energy dmg that can b easily reduced...
Ravage is on the list because the last tick of ravage for Vengance and Rage can crit for 5.5-6k, sometimes more. Last tick of ravage for Carnage can crit for almost 7k.
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Xertasian
12.02.2012 , 10:07 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by dalin View Post
When was this SS taken? Your HP is around BM level without augments. BM with augments is around 18k HP. So you either hit someone that was naked, or that was a really (adrenal stacking days) really long time ago. Sorcs rarely and I do mean rarely, break 4k on DF/FiB, let alone 5k. To see 6k, I'm thinking something is out of whack. I am not saying you're pants are on fire, but there is no way that damage was against a player wearing gear, let alone competitive gear.

Sad part is, Sins do more damage on force attacks than a Sorc does. That's Bioware balance for ya.
that ss was taken right after they nerfed adrenals..yeah i had full war hero..but its the way how i mod my gear.i give up hp but i get alot of dps in return..like i said atm my sage is at 1000+ pvp bonus damage..got like 1425 power..on my sage..i hit that 6k on a geared person..i hit 5k pretty regular..my surge rating is at 78%..
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lord-durpp
12.02.2012 , 10:39 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by cycao View Post
I have also heard,heard that smash for jugg/mara can break 5k but have not seen enough evidence to support this claim.
I have gotten 8k before on my tank juggernaut

Edit: my bad, this was in Pve

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yauhen_pt
12.02.2012 , 11:43 PM | #100
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i hit that 6k on a geared person..i hit 5k pretty regular..my surge rating is at 78%..
man to hit 7k u must have 3.3-3.5k base of fib/DF with 100%-110% crit multipl. to hit 6k u must have 3k base dmg fib/DF etc.. simple math.. post ss of yr aoe base dmg and yr crit multipl.

btw its impossible to get these base dmg numbers whatever u ll stack.

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i have 1080 pvp bonus damage
what the hell is that?

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like i said atm my sage is at 1000+ pvp bonus damage..got like 1425 power..on my sage..i hit that 6k on a geared person..i hit 5k pretty regular..
i have more then 1200 power (dont remeber exact value) and iam far FAR away from numbers u r mentioned.. like i need extra 1000 dmg bonus to hit 6k.. do u think extra 200 power will give 1000 dmg bonus?