Eurogamer re-reviews SWTOR

So you agree, there is a major problem in this design.


No, what I think is after a years time, with every thing that happend from launch.... on top of the illusion and new shiney wearing off after the first month or two... it deserved to be changed.

So you want something like text-do it, the story chain are the same for all classes/races?

You dont need to have conversation in order for an MMO to feel like an MMO. If anything, because of design, the conversations make it feel less like an MMO.

When did I say you had to do the class story before grouping with others? Dont put words in my mouth. If you want to argue something then argue it, but dont put words in my mouth.

This game encourages you to solo for 50 levels then tells you that you have to group to continue on. Thats just poor design through and through. I dont need to provide examples to what is obvious.

I may be mistaken but I beleive the Bounty Hunter, IA and SW all follow a similar template. I really only remember the SW story the most other then the SI, but I know that its Based on Baras. Its not a direct relation to the story as what the SI story presents but it is a similar issue for the SW class. But I actually don't know where the Baras story line ends or begins so .....

No, I wanted an MMO period This is not an MMO, its a single player ME3 with tacked on multiplayer options.

As people have brought it foward during the bêta, there was serious concerns about if MMO players actually wanted story. in the way Bioware thought it.

Because, if I want story in SW, I can buy books. They tell stories more complex and with better characters and more credible setup. Except if written by Traviss.

Problem is...if you combine all of your statements, you don't even know what you want.

What exactly is a strictly multiplayer MMO? We have multiplayer, in many, many aspects of the game. But for efficiency reasons (and story reasons) the level content is mostly single player driven. That's how the product is DESIGNED.

If you don't like it, you aren't playing the right thing for you.

Heck, even in Firefall...which is supposed to be open world, mass multiplayer...people just run around by themselves looking for something to do.

If you don't like the product, go play soemthing else. Its that simple. Don't like chocolate ice cream? Don't eat it.

Then what's wrong with the class quests? Your teammates can go with you, they can fight the enemy for you. They just can't have any conversation or affect your story.

You said this right?

No, it just let you be able to solo it and with good fun like a single game. Even in WOW vanilla I can pretty much solo the character to 60, that's one of the biggest improvement WOW did to EQ.

Which is an MMO. There is no hard definition for what defines an MMO. The only thing that is typically considered is a persistent world in which people interact together. How they do that is defined by the product. There is NO strict definition of an MMO. Holding on to such silly ideas is just....sad.

Well think about it, story is the best part of this game and that's what Bio is the best at. So it's reasonable for them to make it good to get some players' love.

It's not like Bio would do better on other things without the story, actually it would only be worse, at least I would not even play one char to 50 without the story.