Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer

SWTOR about to lose another batch of Subs???

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > Server Forums > The Harbinger
SWTOR about to lose another batch of Subs???

Slay_Victus's Avatar

11.23.2012 , 09:34 PM | #1
This server crap is going to cause a lot more folks to turn there backs on this game. Get the F2P people off this server. Subscribers dont need them and dont want them. You are getting my (and every other subs) cash so we can play this game. 2hr queue to get back on a server that crashed? Not for 15 a month. Players will take their money elsewhere.

TooGreat's Avatar

11.23.2012 , 09:35 PM | #2
Normally I give them slack but in this case it is a bunch of crap.

Wouldnt be a bad idea to have f2p players on their own server.

Rimuranu's Avatar

11.23.2012 , 09:40 PM | #3
Only 2 things can happen at this point when you servers are this unreliable:

1) Things change on the SWTOR end i.e. Compensate players when the servers crash, allow character transfers elsewhere, build new servers, put f2p on another server etc.

2) Things change on the Subscriber end: cancel subscription and spend the time/money/energy elsewhere (which a lot of people will threaten but not ACTUALLY do since they've already invested so much of the above in to this game and the Irrational Escalation of Commitment is one heck of a drug...)

At the end of the day, yes we're all Gamers but we're also consumers, and consumers vote with their dollars...

Slay_Victus's Avatar

11.23.2012 , 09:44 PM | #4
I see your point. However players, even diehard fans can only be let down so many times before they will walk away an never return.

Star Wars Galaxies is a good example of this, Conan is another, but the best example is Tabula Raza. That game failed on so many levels they had no choice but to pull the plug. SWTOR keeps up with this type of track and the same could happen.

ZRated's Avatar

11.23.2012 , 10:48 PM | #5
Maybe I am seeing things differently here..... but this would be the second MMO I have seen that has gone to the XBOX-style of profit. Coins, points, tokens, whatever to get extras..... Pay to play on a higher profit margin....

Subbers pay $15 a month + more than likely purchase more tokens for stuff you can't buy with credits
F2P gets a limited track to lvl50 and more likely to pay more than $15 a month to get extras....
Cutting 75% of the servers out = saved $$ on maint. and bandwidth...

The devs have put on the brakes to a game that was on the right track.....and in the last 2-3 months have chosen a dollar bill over anything.... I give the game 4-6mos before it drops off the radar....especially if nothing changes...

Subs are already paying.... put them on a server that is exclusive...less traffic....etc.

My .02
I don't have anything cool and cheesy to put here... I'll leave that to everyone else...

So-low's Avatar

11.24.2012 , 12:40 AM | #6
As good as it sounds, you cannot put F2P people on a separate server. What happens if they sub because they like the game and are good at it? They would be stuck on a server with a large ratio of F2P players, most of who are casual bads. No fun for them.

Perhaps if once they subbed they could move to a different server, but moving servers seems to be a huge problem for Bioware to handle.

Mindphaze's Avatar

11.24.2012 , 01:47 AM | #7
I wish they would delete this worthless thread, aswell as the other cry baby threads.

ZRated's Avatar

11.24.2012 , 05:27 AM | #8
^^ .... and there's the token "you are all crybabies" guy right on time... but....I bet if we went to the Hostess forums, our token champ would have tears all over the Twinkie threads...

For $15 a month...we get the same game we have been paying for.... with more lag and more downtime.... and it's only going to get worse.... so yea.... we are pulling out the box of Kleenex...who wouldn't?
I don't have anything cool and cheesy to put here... I'll leave that to everyone else...

Rookami's Avatar

11.25.2012 , 01:26 PM | #9
I cant believe i came to back SWTOR to find i cant log in because of FTP people jamming it up.

Who ever thought of letting FTP people on a server with subscribers should be booted up the arse many times with steel toe caps, and then slapped around the head just for good measure.

Dierdrea's Avatar

11.25.2012 , 02:18 PM | #10
I have seen the downtime due to server down but I have not ran into a single instance of queuing for the Harbinger. I am subbed and even when the server display "Full" I still get in no queue or any other pop-ups. I thought one of the things they implemented was no queue time for subbers.

Maybe there is a bug that is recognizing you guys as F2P instead of subber. Either way, that is bad on Bioware's part.