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Seriously Devs with the OP Powertechs/Vanguards

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Seriously Devs with the OP Powertechs/Vanguards

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dalevan
11.23.2012 , 03:29 AM | #1
Why even play other classes? Check the leaderboards in almost every warzone if you want to laugh at imbalance. Imps know. They have at least 3-5 in every warzone. lol It's stupid.
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af_raptura
11.23.2012 , 03:39 AM | #2
Honestly, I can understand an argument for many classes as to why they might be overpowered, but not vanguards/powertechs. Their defensive cooldowns are pretty bad, they have no escape mechanic, can't heal, and in general do not have many tricks to turn the tide of a 1 on 1. If you seriously have problems with them, either roll an assassin or sniper, or their republic counterparts, or stick close to people who play these classes. They have most of the best tricks for stopping vanguards/powertechs.
PvE theorycrafting has really loosened their standards.
Quote: Originally Posted by karlwaite View Post
As for the skill changes to benefit pvp likes of the fly by damage reduction they suffered and reducing focused defence by 200% is a joke they are affecting pve to benefit pvp.

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United_Strafes
11.23.2012 , 04:12 AM | #3
Riiiight a heavy armor, ridiculous DPS class needs cooldowns and "escape mechanics" ok buddy.

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af_raptura
11.23.2012 , 04:18 AM | #4
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Riiiight a heavy armor, ridiculous DPS class needs cooldowns and "escape mechanics" ok buddy.
I think you missed the point. Never did I say that that was what Vanguards/Powertechs needed. I was bringing up arguments as to why they are not overpowered.
PvE theorycrafting has really loosened their standards.
Quote: Originally Posted by karlwaite View Post
As for the skill changes to benefit pvp likes of the fly by damage reduction they suffered and reducing focused defence by 200% is a joke they are affecting pve to benefit pvp.

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Couver
11.23.2012 , 04:21 AM | #5
You know, there's quite a few threads complaining about every class (except mercs/commandos) being OP. Could it be that this game might actually be fairly balanced?

The real problem is cc.

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FodderofCannon
11.23.2012 , 04:40 AM | #6
And yet all I see in lowbie warzones is operatives.

But really PT/Van do lots of damage, that's about it. They lack the utility of the other classes. They are good in pugs because everyone in pugs is pretty much brain dead. Thus any damage first spamming class looks good at the end. What do you want them to be useless???

That being said on my Vanguard I am constantly fighting 2v1 3v1 because most of the imps know who I am and how fast I can kill them if they leave me. Needless to say, if someone doesnt have my back I am dead instantly. We are VERY easy to kill. In fact if focused I would say they are the easiest class to kill.

Now that I have given up their epic weakness, please go back to complaining about the real problem: time to bring cc back to normal BW thank you very much.
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Loladarulz
11.23.2012 , 04:44 AM | #7
I am lolsmash sentinel/mara and shadowsin pwn me 1on1. Not fun they are op

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Rassuro
11.23.2012 , 04:53 AM | #8
TBH out of all of the threads about overpowered classes, the complaining about Powertech/Vanguard is the only one which I've never really been able to see in game in my own experience. Personally I've never had particularly big trouble with that class overall, only against a few specific players who have played that class very well. Not after the 1.4 nerf, and not before either.

At least from my own experience, there has always been other classes who have been FOTM, never PT/VG, both in the sense of a FOTM class being really powerful, and in the sense of a FOTM class being really popular.
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DarkSaberMaster
11.23.2012 , 07:06 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by United_Strafes View Post
Riiiight a heavy armor, ridiculous DPS class needs cooldowns and "escape mechanics" ok buddy.
Obviously you never played one if you consider heavy armor as any kind of benefit.
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LostScot
11.23.2012 , 03:11 PM | #10
Rolled my first Imperial character, chose Bounty Hunter then specialised into Powertech. Not hit level 20 yet but thus far warzones seem fantastic, even the players who are lvl 30-49 don't stand a chance.

Having only played a Smuggler since January and leanred to master PvP with that class I've got to admit it was a breath of fresh air to play a Bounty Hunter and find myself one of the top objective scorers (and with decent kill counts) in every match played so far.

Limited experience for sure, but so far my experience makes me inclined to agree with the original poster.