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Gyronamics
05.08.2013 , 04:53 AM | #151
Join the right side.

We have double stacked proc power relics
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AMightyKnight
05.08.2013 , 04:55 AM | #152
Dumb question / too lazy to look it up
Which relics should one use to stack?

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Gyronamics
05.08.2013 , 05:01 AM | #153
Underworld and Conqueror.

PVE and PVP.

PVE will not stack with PVE.

Something special when they both proc and I drop a MV for a tooltip damage of 10k/target
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jesseleeca
05.08.2013 , 09:24 AM | #154
I've heard different things about whether or not they stack. Someone in my guild did a few minutes on a dummy and concluded that PvP and PvE don't stack but Conqueror and Partisan do.
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Gyronamics
05.08.2013 , 09:49 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by jesseleeca View Post
concluded that PvP and PvE don't stack
Tell him to test it properly.

This is what over 2k+ power looks like : http://s12.postimg.org/dy6zjq665/whatwhat.png
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Khevar
05.08.2013 , 10:58 AM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by jesseleeca View Post
I've heard different things about whether or not they stack. Someone in my guild did a few minutes on a dummy and concluded that PvP and PvE don't stack but Conqueror and Partisan do.
The tool tip states the proc can't happen more frequently than every 20 seconds. I only have one parse with a single relic, and it's a short one, but it came out as ~22 seconds per proc:

http://www.torparse.com/a/187608/1/0/Log
Partisan Serendipitous Relic only, 2:57, 8 procs, 22.5 seconds avg

Here are some parses after I got a second relic. Note the proc is quicker than 20 seconds:

http://www.torparse.com/a/187608/3/0/Log
Underworld + Partisan Serendipitous Relics, 1:51, 9 procs, 12.3 seconds avg

http://www.torparse.com/a/196393/2/0/Log
Underworld + Partisan Serendipitous Relics, 8:50, 34 procs, 15.5 seconds avg

http://www.torparse.com/a/196405/1/0/Log
Underworld + Partisan Serendipitous Relics, 5:57, 24 procs, 14.9 seconds avg

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jesseleeca
05.08.2013 , 11:21 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
The tool tip states the proc can't happen more frequently than every 20 seconds. I only have one parse with a single relic, and it's a short one, but it came out as ~22 seconds per proc:

http://www.torparse.com/a/187608/1/0/Log
Partisan Serendipitous Relic only, 2:57, 8 procs, 22.5 seconds avg

Here are some parses after I got a second relic. Note the proc is quicker than 20 seconds:

http://www.torparse.com/a/187608/3/0/Log
Underworld + Partisan Serendipitous Relics, 1:51, 9 procs, 12.3 seconds avg

http://www.torparse.com/a/196393/2/0/Log
Underworld + Partisan Serendipitous Relics, 8:50, 34 procs, 15.5 seconds avg

http://www.torparse.com/a/196405/1/0/Log
Underworld + Partisan Serendipitous Relics, 5:57, 24 procs, 14.9 seconds avg
Interesting, guess I'll try it out when I get my relic.
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ArchangelLBC
05.08.2013 , 01:10 PM | #158
My understanding is they ninja patched Tuesday so that you can't double stack a PVE and PVP relic. I can do some more testing today and see if it's true, but last night I just went with the assumption that they wouldn't double stack.
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jesseleeca
05.08.2013 , 09:18 PM | #159
Finally got my mainhand and dropped all my crit rating for 1500 bonus damage, we'll see how this goes.
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Khevar
05.08.2013 , 10:17 PM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by ArchangelLBC View Post
My understanding is they ninja patched Tuesday so that you can't double stack a PVE and PVP relic. I can do some more testing today and see if it's true, but last night I just went with the assumption that they wouldn't double stack.
SM TfB just now:
http://www.torparse.com/a/217410/15/0/Log
5:47 - 22 procs - avg 15.7 per proc

http://www.torparse.com/a/217410/6/0/Log
5:40 - 19 procs - avg 17.8 per proc

The other fights had too much downtime to reliably tell, but they were all proccing closer together than 20s, though not by much.