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Maybe it is ranked warzones that need some work?

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Maybe it is ranked warzones that need some work?

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PlagaNerezza
11.20.2012 , 12:19 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
I actually prefer the competition that normally comes with ranked. However tired of facing the same 4-5 guilds... and so are they. It's come to the point to where we normally just do team mash-ups with others guilds just for something more competitive. They all feel the same way I do... lack of competition variety... One guild dominates and the rest of us are just a step behind them. Those matches are fun... the first 20 times. Very competitive but it's the same people... there is no variety.

A huge reason I promote competition is because myself and the other guilds who are doing rated crave it. We need variety.

Besides this and back on topic... I personally think rated needs more rewards to encourage people to get involved and match making based on rated ranking average throughout the team. Won't be perfect but it couldn't hurt.

I'd also like to see a leaderboard on display in some way. Something for bragging rights... I think that would further promote competition.
The game needs ranked queues that give you the opportunity to accept the team your being asked to play against, unless its a tournament.

If I don't want to play Team Awesome Ranked Team 1. Then I can refuse as the leader so that my group can play a match we think we can win. If we want to give it a try against team awesome we can. Its the only way to encourage players to participate in ranked queues.

You need to allow ranked teams to get experience in ranked queues. Putting a team with 5 guys with zero rank some in bm gear who have to accept a 20 minute face stomping is never ever going to not develop a ranked queue ever. If you are tier 1 you'll still be playing the same guys except in tournaments or if you go with some randoms. But this will hopeful if given some time produce more tier 1ish players willing and able to fight tier 1 teams.
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Cilas
11.20.2012 , 12:23 PM | #12
If it is a face stomping it wouldn't be 20 minutes, more like 5-9.

Giving that option means team awesome #1 wouldn't get the chance to play much. You can bet most people would wimp out at not go against them (unless it is team almost as awesome #2)
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Pvtcarnage
11.20.2012 , 12:27 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by TheronFett View Post
Here's the problem with RWZ: competition.

It's more fun for premades to dominate PUGs in regular warzones than it is to queue up for RWZ and face the possibility of losing. Fact.
Fact: it takes much more time to set up ranked with proper classes and people that have the proper gear, most times our guild has to work with other guilds to even get a pop. Rank DOES NOT EQUAL regular WZ's for groups. It's ranked and for organized teams that want ranked items and bragging rights.

Fact : Regular warzones don't belong to solo players...It's for everyone.

I could go on but getting through to these types are a waste of time. they just want easy mode death match with out responsibility of TEAM play on a MMO
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Cilas
11.20.2012 , 12:31 PM | #14
Yeah, I ignored that post, it was off topic anyways.
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Varinm
11.20.2012 , 12:39 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
I'd also like to see a leaderboard on display in some way. Something for bragging rights... I think that would further promote competition.
A big bright Nar Shaddaa-style Ranked Team Leaderboard hovering over the fleet cantina. It can even be RP-friendly, with a WWII-style news ticker displaying updates from the front lines.

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UGLYMRJ
11.20.2012 , 12:45 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Varinm View Post
A big bright Nar Shaddaa-style Ranked Team Leaderboard hovering over the fleet cantina. It can even be RP-friendly, with a WWII-style news ticker displaying updates from the front lines.
Pretty much what I see in my head. The bigger and brighter the better and put it in more than one location.

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Cilas
11.20.2012 , 12:49 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Varinm View Post
A big bright Nar Shaddaa-style Ranked Team Leaderboard hovering over the fleet cantina. It can even be RP-friendly, with a WWII-style news ticker displaying updates from the front lines.
While this would be cool (and I totally support it) I'm sure it would come down to allocation of resources, and I would rather see another warzone.. Besides, on our server the top few rated teams are pretty much undisputed at this point without needing an official leader board.

Another idea/suggestion: What about altering the warzone maps slightly for rated? In pve, the boss fights have different mechanics based on difficulty, why not have the maps change slightly as well in rated? For example, in a Novato coast, whoever is defending has at least 2 of the turrets gets a slight damage/healing output debuff (you're currently winning, why not make it a little more challenging)
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11.20.2012 , 12:50 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Pvtcarnage View Post
Fact: it takes much more time to set up ranked with proper classes and people that have the proper gear, most times our guild has to work with other guilds to even get a pop. Rank DOES NOT EQUAL regular WZ's for groups. It's ranked and for organized teams that want ranked items and bragging rights.

Fact : Regular warzones don't belong to solo players...It's for everyone.

I could go on but getting through to these types are a waste of time. they just want easy mode death match with out responsibility of TEAM play on a MMO
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11.20.2012 , 01:46 PM | #19
Updated with suggestions
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11.20.2012 , 01:51 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by TheronFett View Post
Here's the problem with RWZ: competition.

It's more fun for premades to dominate PUGs in regular warzones than it is to queue up for RWZ and face the possibility of losing. Fact.
Not really. This was about 5th on my demotivation to do ranked list. The ones ahead of it:

1) queues too long
2) too difficult to get 7 people together to do ranked to start with - much less anything reembling a good combination for the team.
3) actual rating system is broken insofar as making competitive matchups.
4) no cross server queuing would make #3 (if fixed) difficult to happen to begin with.

Seriously, if there were single ranked queues, I'd do them. Bioware continues to fail at their implementation of ranked warzones. Longest preseason ever.
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