heechJunzi Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 How about it, folks happy about it? The reduced healing for watchman. As a combat sent I'm glad I escaped the nerf bat. I kinda wish they'd aim it at the focus guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteAssasin Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 It's sad considering they already nerfed our burn damage. Now our once mediocre heals are crappy. But oh we'll, just time to move on. I love how they just snuck it in instead of putting this on the PTS. I guess they really do succumb to the power of the QQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipodes Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Watchman was the worst of the specs for RWZs. Surprising it gets a nerf while focus doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polebreaker Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Watchman was the worst of the specs for RWZs. Surprising it gets a nerf while focus doesn't. It's not, really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebia Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Leap to 15M Remove force camo(add a threat dump ability) Nerf rebuke Sentinels balanced Thank me later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawelc Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I would take a nerf to rebuke damage reduction if they made it an actual dps cd as it should be, nerf the dr to 10% buff the damage and I would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteAssasin Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Watchman was the worst of the specs for RWZs. Surprising it gets a nerf while focus doesn't. Maybe now, but not before the nerf there pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahbrah Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I guess they really do succumb to the power of the QQ. Because people were totally complaining about Watchman heals when it came to Sentinels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley-Gin Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Everybody knows Focus is broken...seen a fresh 50 do 500k... Whats the ability called Force Sweep? does like 8k crits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davitoeliato Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I love how bioware nerfs this **** out of a spec, yet still leaves the bugged out beserk the same which made that spec good. How stupid can they get? Smash spec anyone, as if we needed more of those around. I rolled a sin/op because I knew it would get changed I just expected them to fix their bug instead of nerfing the spec into the ground and leaving the bug The bug is simple, Beserk Requires and converts 30 stacks of Fury to go Berserk. Lasts for 6 charges. This effect varies based on your current lightsaber form: Juyo Form: Increases the critical chance of your bleed attacks by 100% and causes bleed damage to heal YOUR GROUP FOR 1% of max health each tick. the tooltip for predation is different it says Requires and converts 30 stacks of Fury to issue Predation TO YOU AND YOUR GROUP, increasing movement speed by 50% and melee and ranged defense by 10%. Lasts 10 seconds. So if the ability actually did what it was supposed to do it would only return 12% when berserk happened. before 1.5 it was healing 18%. So bioware has chosen to nerf crit stacked anni mara and force people to once again power stack. After 1.5 it heals for 12% but nerfs the **** out of the general crits from dots. GG bioware GG I like many others are now forced to go play your fotm spec in order to be competitive in warzones. I will enjoy watching you nerf that mistake in the future well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henu Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 is .5 really that much of a nerf? i mean really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davitoeliato Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 It goes from 2% to 1% on crits, when you crit 60% of the time and you always have a dot up yes it it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastmouse Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 is .5 really that much of a nerf? i mean really? Yes. REALLY. An annihilation marauder can heal himself upwards of 20-40% of his HP in a long, drawn out fight, not counting the 18% heal from berserk that can be popped every 20-30 seconds. Now these self heals have been cut by half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NogueiraA Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Now Bioware please look at ASSASSINS and SNIPERS... Why Snipers has that 4sec stun?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravioli Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Yes. REALLY. An annihilation marauder can heal himself upwards of 20-40% of his HP in a long, drawn out fight, not counting the 18% heal from berserk that can be popped every 20-30 seconds. Now these self heals have been cut by half. Even with the nerf they are still godly vs pretty much every class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafay Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Even with the nerf they are still godly vs pretty much every class. Um, NO. It is Very hard to beat a well played assassin and pretty much impossible to beat a stunbubble/heal spec'd sorc as annihilation. Now that is even worse. If they wanted to reduce the heals thats fine but you have to ballance, they should have made the dots un-clensable if they were going to do this. Now the few dots you get to stick heal you for half as much. In a fight with a well played bubble spec sorc I can keep it going for a while because of the tics of heals that do get off. Now they will kill me just about 2X as fast seeing how the heals are half as much now. In a fight with a Sin, resilance blocks the damage of the dots but it doesnt block the healing you recieve for the tics, so there again you are screwd, no more staying alive long enough to get through resilance for you! Seriously what the crack smoking tools at the pvp ballance department doing? Bunch of monkeys jumping around the cubicles screaming and throwing fecal matter? Its the Rage/focus that needed looked into not Annihilation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_Dallas Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 This didn't need to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpleshizam Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Then just go derpasmash like Bioware wants you to since their metrics say there are not enough so they nerf all other viable specs. Just be happy you have 2 other specs that work unlike some other "DPS" classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazzen Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 This didn't need to be changed. ^Agreed This is not slight at all. It really pigeon holes Sentis/Maras to roll Focus/Smash spec to be viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafay Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I already go rage in WZ because of OP. Now im pretty much pigeon holed into it like the other guy said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_Dallas Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 ^Agreed This is not slight at all. It really pigeon holes Sentis/Maras to roll Focus/Smash spec to be viable. Well, you've still got Carnage, but Annihilation's -thing- was that its self heals let it dominate the 4m classes at the cost of not having burst. I thought that was a fair trade. And if marauders in general can be said to be unbalanced, slow self heals in one spec couldn't be said to be why.. Hurts raiders too. Just a bad change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyFrogx Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Everybody knows Focus is broken...seen a fresh 50 do 500k... Whats the ability called Force Sweep? does like 8k crits. Full, Full War Hero with Elites and 600+ bonus damage, cannot hit for 8k. Stop your BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyFrogx Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) Even with the nerf they are still godly vs pretty much every class. Still godly, yes agree. But, I have to say being destroyed by an operative without getting a skill off is is a bit lame. Edited November 16, 2012 by HolyFrogx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoiks Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 It's pretty clear something is wrong.. The problem with maras/sents is their survivability and utility as dps. While certainly healing is a factor in survivability, lowering it only lessens the synergy between healing and MASSIVE defensive cds. And it does nothing to lessen the utility edge they have over every other dps in both pve and pvp. But it's not unexpected they would go this way, it's what they did to tankasins also, when it was mainly their high dps for a tank spec and not the extra survivability/utility they had over the dps specs that was the problem. Or how about the problem with PT BH? Too much burst. What's the solution? Make it more difficult to use a few key abilities for both PTs and Mercs, who are already on the bottom tier for pvp dps, but also give them MORE burst.....It seems like there is some kind of strange disconnect going on at EA/BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_Dallas Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) Can anyone link me the patch notes, actually? Want to see if they changed anything else weird that didn't need to be changed, like, I don't know, Evasion. Edit: nvm found it. If there was only going to be one balance-related change, that's one Hell of a weird thing to change. Edited November 16, 2012 by Larry_Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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