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Do you feel you have much relationship with most of your companion characters?

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Do you feel you have much relationship with most of your companion characters?

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Kaisernick
11.11.2012 , 04:38 AM | #11
im very disappointed in xalek as once you get him the convos were very short and almost no interaction with him at all.
i was sooo looking forward to getting to know him as my apprentice as a dark character i felt that he would be much better than the torguta and was left very let down.

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Karkais
11.11.2012 , 05:25 AM | #12
Yeah, those convos were like

Xalek: "You are a great warrior."
Inquisitor: "Ok."
you gain 500 xp
"Their strength became my own. Their minds became my own. All flesh is my flesh. None move, save I will it. This is the rule the Sith were promised, and I have made it real!"
- From the codex of Karness Muur

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kalistea
11.11.2012 , 05:41 AM | #13
So far I leveled 3 characters to 50: Operative healer, Marauder and Juggernaut (all female) and have a bunch of characters around lvl 30.

In all cases, I find myself picking up one companion that I take with me everywhere, while neglecting the 4 others almost completely : that was Vector for my operative and Quinn for both my sith warriors, and I will probably do the same with future characters.

I also raised affection with Vette, Jaesa, Kaliyo and Temple with gifts to discover their stories, but it doesn't feel the same as actually fighting alongside your companion. Plus, in your class story you get some additional conversations with your current companion, so you get to know them better ofc.

I'm happy that my character's love interests also proved to be the most efficient companions when it came to leveling and taking on elite mobs. Being able to use your favorite companion all the time really adds to the fun

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thatghost
11.11.2012 , 12:23 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Karkais View Post
Yeah, those convos were like

Xalek: "You are a great warrior."
Inquisitor: "Ok."
you gain 500 xp
LOL true, and I feel the same way about Broonmark...
Broonmark: [something that translates to "Sith Clan makes me bloodlust happy, kill, revenge, life is good"]
SW: "Alrighty then."
++++affection/xp

Sad in Xalek's case. He's your apprentice and he arrives too late in the game to really form an attachment to him. Broonmark may as well be a holosculpture of a Talz, a slightly embarrassing souvenir of Hoth tucked away next to the cargo hold: 'once again- why did I bring this thing on board?'

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Andge
11.11.2012 , 09:09 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by ShupFace View Post
Have you not been having conversations with your companions? Or are you just not paying attention?
I must admit, that for both SW and Scoundrel I basically only played with two of each class's companions, which means I only gained affection with them, and therefore only had conversations with them - again, except for the few times where the whole crew gathers around the holo-thing.

But I find it weird that in spite of the fact that I almost only played with Jaesa once I got her, and tried my best to gain affection from her by chosing the right dialogue options, I still hadn't enough affection to finish her story, when I reached lvl 50.

Affection and companion story progression is too dependent on companion gifts at the moment, I think. I mean, if you can barely finish the story of one companion though you use that companion during most of the leveling, it's impossible to ever finish all of them unless you buy a ton of companion gifts. Which is artificial.

I wonder if it's because my reference point when it comes to companion characters is Baldur's Gate II; in that game, because all companions are with you all the time, your relationship with them as well as their story progress much more organically and quite often as well.

I think also Kotor I and II worked better than SWTOR in terms of companions; instead of affection, it was simply time spent with the companion that unlocked the next stage in their storyline.
I didn't care at all about e.g. Quinn. But had I known that bringing him for half the quests on a planet would have triggered a stage in his story for sure, then at least I would have had an incentive to give him a chance.

Companion characters is a really good idea for an MMO. But something is lacking at the moment, I think.

Happy to hear that most of you seem to feel you have had a satisfied experience with companions so far.

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Helig
11.11.2012 , 10:35 PM | #16
Jedi Knight: Scourge. Everyone else seemed to be random people tagging along. And I played Light Side.
Jedi Consular: Probably Nadia and Quizen.
Smuggler: Corso. Annoying and thick, but he was the only one who I wasn't completely indifferent about.
Trooper: Aric, and, to a lesser extent, Temple.

Sith Warrior: Jaesa, Vette.
Inquisitor: Nothing, really...
Imperial Agent: Probably Temple.
Bounty Hunter: Lil' sister Mako.
"I'm not *giving* him cake, I'm *assaulting* him with cake!" - Pinkamena Diane Pie

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Arodin
11.12.2012 , 12:49 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
You can play through the story part of the game with any of the characters if you gear them well. You don't have to stick with the obvious choices. Like any Bioware game, you get to know the characters you spend time with. That being said, if you're crafting, which you should be for numerous reasons, you can get enough companion gifts to raise the other characters to the point that you can get to know them as well. Getting to know the companions is as much a part of the game as gearing yourself, doing your class quests, or doing flashpoints, and requires the same attention.
This is pretty much what I was going to say. If getting to know all of your companions is important to you, it is something you have to actively work on. I do think that Bioware made it unnecessarily difficult to get the companion conversations. I imagine a lot of people miss out on it. The writers spent time writing it, the voice actors spent time recording dialogue, and probably the majority of players never see any of it. I think they should just unlock as you level up, with the affection level only important if you want a romance.

I realized the problem early on, so my solution was to level up Treasure Hunting and Diplomacy on my first character, and just constantly churn out companion gifts. It takes loads of them to get all companion affection levels to max to unlock all of their dialogue scenes, but in the end I think it is worth it so that I can see them as real characters and not just strangers that hang around on my ship.

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Rassth
11.12.2012 , 07:59 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Andge View Post
But I find it weird that in spite of the fact that I almost only played with Jaesa once I got her, and tried my best to gain affection from her by chosing the right dialogue options, I still hadn't enough affection to finish her story, when I reached lvl 50.
I find it weird that it went that way with you too; especially if you're exiting/re-entering conversations just to get affection with her. I maxed out my affection with Jaessa by level ~40 without gifts. On my BH my affection with Mako is also 4,000+ and he's only level 24. Granted Mako is your first companion and you don't get Jaessa for a while, but still it went rather quickly for me.

I also find it a bit difficult to get to know all of your companions. I fall into the primarily use one companion through the story classification. It was all Vette until I got Jaessa then all Jaessa. I kind of wanted to use Quinn just for the heals to grind 48-50 faster, but fell into the "he's way too undergeared to be effective right now" situation. Vette and Jaessa are awesome, Broonmark is pretty cool, but Quinn/Pierce aren't my favorite. Not poor characters, just not my style.
For the Knight it is Kira all the way. She's just my kind of girl; love her personality. I also like T7 a lot; the hardy little droid companion.
Haven't gotten too attached to anyone in my IA's story so far as I'm going lightside Agent and Kaliyo just wants me to kill and rob everyone. And I basically have just been sticking with Kaliyo.
So far Mako is probably my favorite female companion. She's just awesome.

I could go on about basically any class of which companion I like the most at the moment, but I've gotten most of the classes only to ~30ish so it's a bit of a skewed opinion for most of them. SW, JK, IA, and BH I've gotten furthest as (or finished) so that's my opinion on it! Almost wish I could have two companions with me just to increase the amount of story and connection with my companions, but that is obviously a bit much for a MMO.

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Andge
11.12.2012 , 09:31 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Arodin View Post
I do think that Bioware made it unnecessarily difficult to get the companion conversations. I imagine a lot of people miss out on it. The writers spent time writing it, the voice actors spent time recording dialogue, and probably the majority of players never see any of it. I think they should just unlock as you level up, with the affection level only important if you want a romance.
I really agree with this. Considering most people will probably only play through each class story once, when it is as hard as it is to make companion stories progress, so much writing, voice-acting, and animation for that matter, will only be seen by a few. Especially as it seems that there is a clear tendency for people like the same companions such as e.g. Mako and Jaesa.
A way to get around this could be as you suggest to unlock companion stories as you level up, and then simply make affection affect your dialogue options, such as e.g. romance/flirt options.

I think another way to give players more of a relationship with all companions would be to have more of those holo-gatherings, where the whole crew is present. In those cut-scenes, you both get a chance to get to know a bit about who each companion is and also about the companions' attitude towards each other.
That way, at least you could get to know e.g. Broonmark a bit without being forced to play with him.

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tanare
11.13.2012 , 12:05 PM | #20
smuggler- stuck with Corso until i got risha- since then he's only appeared if i got a companion item that none of the others liked or if i wanted to flirt with an NPC. did get to do one of his companion missions.
Risha i enjoyed- was almost like you got her second given all the time you spend with her before she joins you.
Guss and Akaaavi i've been splitting time between, Guss generally just seems to make funny remarks and Akaavi is a bit too serious.. Bowdaar just sort of guards the kitchen.

SW- Vette and jaesa i enjoy, probably Vette more but haven't progressed as far as i could yet because i'm testing a "three way dance" scenario so been working with jaesa affection mostly. haven;t used any of the others, just noticed the other day at lvl 41 Quinn's still running around in lvl 20 gear.

SI- Khem's about the only one i've had any interest in. Androkus is kinda there and Ashara makes me wish i had the purebloo slap upside the head ability.

BH- Mako's been fun, only have Gault otherwise.

IA- kailyo is annoying and is the only one i have atm

JK- kira (char is still in the teens) and the droid are ok but nothing special just yet since the char's so low.

haven't made a trooper and got bored with the JC around lvl 5 so can;t help anyone there.
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