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Free recruit for PvP, what does PvE get?


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ydenneksirhc
11.05.2012 , 12:34 AM | #1
So, my merc just hit 50. first thing i did was buy both war hero medic blasters and got the full recruit set. Over 1.1k expertise so im not getting completely wrecked, making early 50 pvp enjoyable. Where does PvE come into all of this? I understand there is no recruit equivelant in PvE and i find this quite frustrating. If PvPrs (i am one fyi) get a free set giving them a decent 1k expertise boost and an awesome way to get started in pvp, why do PvEs have to grind flashpoints all day and maybe even que for storymode ops? those take forever because most of the people who que for them have no clue how to pve at 50, its not linear based questing anymore.....

im not asking bioware to send free full sets of columi to fresh 50s (although i dont feel thats asking much) but what i want to know is why.

Thanks for responses guys.
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Griad
11.05.2012 , 01:18 AM | #2
Its already to easy to get PVE gear in this game so just do a few FP and you will be full columi before you know it
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Setsugetsuka
11.05.2012 , 01:19 AM | #3
Columi? Bah.

Tionese is the entry level gear, akin to Recruit.
Personally, you can begin HM FP's with full recruit, maybe not the harder ones, but definitely the first few if you have a decent team and can play your class properly. You'd be in Columi by week end.

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Meepbot
11.05.2012 , 01:41 AM | #4
recruit is a fine starter set for both PvP and PvE, and unless youre running Kaon with 3 other guys in full recruit, or your dumb enough to run a LI, you should be fine for anything in the GF at 50 with the exception of T2 FPs (again, dont try LI HM in recruit )
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FlyinSpaghetti
11.05.2012 , 03:28 AM | #5
I agree, with PvE gear even tionese you have to earn it where as the PvPers get there starter gear for doing nothing, which also has a higher weapon/armor rating than tionese.

It also makes me a little mad that for mainhand columi weapons you have to either play a karaggas palace run (which ops can only be done once a week) with an 1/8 chance of grabbing it or LI HM which while nerfed very few will have the patience of carrying someone undergeared. With PvP you can get your mainhand BM which has higher weapon rating and not much different to stats than columi after 15-20 matches and that's not including dailies and if you play ranked 10 matches a day and you can have the war hero mainhand in a week which is far superior than the columi for less effort.

But at the end of the day there are a lot of PvPers in this "story driven" MMO, BW are trying to please them because they cry more which IMO BW shouldn't be doing, instead they should nerf the PvP gear so it's not really convenient for PvE so people don't get a free ticket to skip the grind.
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GARhenus
11.05.2012 , 03:52 AM | #6
Recruit mk 2's are good enough for pve, and they're better than anything I had before I hit 50 (unless you're already loaded with all purple lvl 47-49 mods and gear which makes me wonder what you need the starter armor for in the first place)

It doesn't mean that an armor with expertise stat = useless in PVE

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Setsugetsuka
11.05.2012 , 04:06 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by FlyinSpaghetti View Post
I agree, with PvE gear even tionese you have to earn it where as the PvPers get there starter gear for doing nothing, which also has a higher weapon/armor rating than tionese.

It also makes me a little mad that for mainhand columi weapons you have to either play a karaggas palace run (which ops can only be done once a week) with an 1/8 chance of grabbing it or LI HM which while nerfed very few will have the patience of carrying someone undergeared. With PvP you can get your mainhand BM which has higher weapon rating and not much different to stats than columi after 15-20 matches and that's not including dailies and if you play ranked 10 matches a day and you can have the war hero mainhand in a week which is far superior than the columi for less effort.

But at the end of the day there are a lot of PvPers in this "story driven" MMO, BW are trying to please them because they cry more which IMO BW shouldn't be doing, instead they should nerf the PvP gear so it's not really convenient for PvE so people don't get a free ticket to skip the grind.
Your mainhand is one out of twelve. I'm sure you can scrounge up the other eleven pieces to be able to do an OPs run. If anything, I found PvE gearing to be way easier than PvP, I wonder if that's why you get the free PvP set..

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AMKSED
11.05.2012 , 05:41 AM | #8
Yeah PvE is really hard....oh wait...

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Rassuro
11.05.2012 , 05:45 AM | #9
First, PVE players also get the free Recruit gear.

Second, PVP and PVE works completely differently.

In PVE you have several tiers of content. Level 50 FP -> HM FP -> SM OPS -> and so on...
If BW gave out free gear equivalent of what you get in for example SM OPS, then all lower tiers would be irrelevant.
(...and the lowest tiers are already irrelevant because PVE people get the free Recruit gear)

In PVP, you have only one tier (or two, if you'd want to count ranked as a different tier, which IMO you shouldn't).
You cannot have people in questing gear in the same WZ as people who have WH/EWH because it would be impossible for the people in questing gear to get anything done, which would be bad for everyone.
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Ifrica
11.05.2012 , 07:40 AM | #10
Get recruit gear, do Ilum/BH dailies, run HM flashpoints (don't forget to pick up daily/weekly quest on fleet), EV 'AND' KP via group finder (yes you can do GF ops twice a week, twice the reward) which is doable even in recruit, but if you run a couple HM's you'll be half in columi already, by then you'll have some daily comms too which can buy a rakata implant already, you'll have enough BH comms for an earpiece/waist/wrist, and a mainhand you can buy from the Tionese guy and upgrade the mods when you get better ones.

using this strategy i was full Columi+ in a weekend on my latest 50.
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