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So, did I do the right thing?

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So, did I do the right thing?

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Chlomamf
11.04.2012 , 06:12 PM | #11
I was actually in the same (well not completely) situation as you: I was on my Sin alt, ACW, I was gonna ninja cap West and I noticed the Reps had 3 people guarding it. I was preparing to Ninja Cap it when, out of nowhere, a Marauder comes and starts fighting the three guards. I stay on the sidelines because there's no point in me joining the fight and dieng too, right?

Obviously the Marauder dies, and not long after I see he typed in Ops for everyone to kick me because 'I didn't do anything'. I mean seriously, he wants me to fight with him against three enemies which will lead to both our deaths?

Must've been one of those "screw tactics, let's just charge in and hope for the best" people.

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NotRonin
11.04.2012 , 06:24 PM | #12
The game is not won by which team has the most kill/death ratio. It's all about objectives. I believe the OP took the correct decision.

In 2 vs 2, starting with everyone at 100%, the win/loss will be 50/50, depending on CD.

In the situation where the marauder dies in 2 vs 1, the opponent won't be at 100% anymore. The OP harass them while they try to cap, and when the marauder comes back, it'll be 2 people at 100% vs 2 people at less than 100%. The odds of winning is now much higher.

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Technohic
11.05.2012 , 07:20 AM | #13
The more I think about it, I feel like I should have taken the gamble and went for the kill, but some more details I can think of are

It was sub-50 and I was level 30. not sure what my partner was, but the 2 attackers I believe were in their 40s.

Now that sounds like maybe I did the right thing, but we had been at the losing end all match and that was the sole node we had the entire match. The 2 attackers had tried multiple times to take it for the 3 cap, and I was there to stop them most of those times. We did take mid as the 3rd attacker showed up to overwhelm me that last time in question, but the game ended pretty handily in their favor within maybe 30 seconds of that.

So, after I slept on it, maybe I should have taken a loser attitude with the objective at that point and rolled the dice and error on the side of helping my teammate.

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Ferkles
11.05.2012 , 09:32 AM | #14
If your survival is not absolutely assured, you shouldn't jump into things. You did the right thing and played the objective. Your teammate was the one who did the wrong thing by being too butthurt to reinforce you and finish off the other imps.
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Joesixxpack
11.05.2012 , 10:05 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by MelodicSixNine View Post
It all depends on a situation, but from what you said I think you did the right thing. Saving your teammate arse is not priority as he doesn't lose anything from his death. Your priority is to prevent people from taking/completing the objective.
This. We're not playing TDMs. Sucks to not back up teammates in trouble, but point is to win match.

There's a time to use stealth advantageously for team objectives, and a time to join the fray. Since there are plenty of stealths who screw off or use the ability stupidly, and players who observe this and/or don't understand how helpful stealth is when teammates use it well, don't expect everyone to appreciate when you use it smartly.

Alderaan example: Each team has a side node, we're playing better than the other team and everyone wants to focus mid but we just can't cap it. It's safe to solo stealth attack their capped node and pull respawns that way so the rest of team can get mid. I tell the team then do it. Success! We cap mid, then some cheesenuts in ops chat "duhhh why u go side we needed everyone mid you #$%^$&$**^ ^&%*^*^%*!!!! We got it anyway while you're soloing l2p ^&%$&%$*^*^(&!!!!

tl;dr? - Stealth, when used intelligently is a force multiplier and makes a difference. IQ and emotional maturity aren't prerequisites for playing, so some people who won't get it.
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Capt_Beers
11.05.2012 , 10:12 AM | #16
I would have stunned one and focused the other. Once they started winning the battle against your lone teammate they may have made the call that there was only one guard. That may have been what sent number 3 over.

If you would have focused one down and started on the second you may have deterred the third one from coming over.
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Technohic
11.05.2012 , 10:20 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Capt_Beers View Post
I would have stunned one and focused the other. Once they started winning the battle against your lone teammate they may have made the call that there was only one guard. That may have been what sent number 3 over.

If you would have focused one down and started on the second you may have deterred the third one from coming over.
Well; now that you mention it, the 3rd was an assassin and I am pretty sure the attackers had an idea I might be around as I had been fending them off a few times before earlier in the match. For all I know, that assassin could have been lurking nearby waiting for me to unstealth, and we would have had a 3 on 2 if that was the case.

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Belly
11.05.2012 , 10:23 AM | #18
More than one way to skin a cat. If you successfully defended the objective, you did it right
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Technohic
11.05.2012 , 10:48 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Belly View Post
More than one way to skin a cat. If you successfully defended the objective, you did it right
I did for a while, but it ultimately was lost. There was plenty of time for my teammate to have returned by then; whether we would have held or not had he done so is anyones guess. It is why I have doubts and didn't just ignore the complaints of me just standing there, and that being why I was toward the bottom of the scoreboard for damage.

The only other stealth I played in this game was an assassin back toward the beginning, and I was a darkness one, so I did not hide in stealth much at all like I do as a scrapper, where I find myself being more tactical and less going into the fight. I do a lot of observing and picking my battles so I wonder if I did it too much. As I level this toon, and plan to make it my republic main for PvP, I want to make sure I evaluate about every thing I do, and am helping my team to the best of my ability.

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Banderal
11.05.2012 , 11:30 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Technohic View Post
I want to make sure I evaluate about every thing I do, and am helping my team to the best of my ability.
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What's with all this "thinking" stuff? Do you realize what game you are playing? Calculating how best to use your abilities to help your team? Who does that!? You are supposed to just run in, focusing down on one guy, following him all over the map if you have to, while ignoring the other one that's capping, and then complain in chat about how you lost that node because the other guy couldn't take out "his" opponent. You took out yours, right? Must be his fault. Stop all this thinking about how to help the team, it just gets in the way of your dps and kill count.
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P.S. Once had someone call out to kick me for being AFK because he turned around and saw me in stealth helping to guard west in CW. Thing is, I had *just* entered stealth after helping him fight off 2 attackers at the node, guarding him, taunting, stunning, throwing little rocks at the red guys. I don't know how he didn't notice the big blue bubble around him syphoning off damage to me. Maybe some people just have it in for stealthers, because they can't do it. Stealth envy?