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Artifice - Where to Find a White Lightsaber Crystal (And other rares)

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Artifice - Where to Find a White Lightsaber Crystal (And other rares)

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MaximusRex
01.30.2012 , 05:19 PM | #1131
Quote: Originally Posted by Fashybinder View Post
Datamining sites dont fictionalize data. It means that it's in the game/developed but rather than releasing it at launch, they've held it back as to justify our sub.

HK droid anyone?
Crafting?
Appearance tabs?
Missing ops?

Really, release the game, then improve it. Dont hold back content and expect applause when its released.
You do realize that work in progress also gets into game files ahead of time? Data-mined items from WoW have revealed items that pointed to other content that was still being developed. Just because some bits are in the data files doesn't means its ready to be released.

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WraithAscendant
01.30.2012 , 05:23 PM | #1132
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=252962

Post here. This thread has gotten a tad to big.
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Forkrul
01.30.2012 , 05:37 PM | #1133
Quote: Originally Posted by Fashybinder View Post
Datamining sites dont fictionalize data. It means that it's in the game/developed but rather than releasing it at launch, they've held it back as to justify our sub.

HK droid anyone?
Crafting?
Appearance tabs?
Missing ops?

Really, release the game, then improve it. Dont hold back content and expect applause when its released.
Just because it's in the game files does not mean it is finished. It could be an area that is not yet fully built, but still has the associated loot already created. Or it could be a fully built and populated area that is still being tuned and the bugs being ironed out.

But yes, keeping fully working and implemented content away is bad imo.
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Fiachsidhe
01.30.2012 , 05:48 PM | #1134
Quote: Originally Posted by Vyrr_Has View Post
They waited until it blew up in their faces, then addressed the problem. They created the situation by not telling anyone that there was no white crystal in the game yet, they compounded the situation by allowing speculation, interest and frenzy to grow about it... and here we are, almost two months later, just now learning what they should have told us in the first week that this thread sat on the first page of the Crew Skills forum, bumped over and over again by players desperate to find that one thing that they wanted most

I'm just not cool with that, and I'm not buying the "they were investigating" or "they couldn't mention it yet" reasoning. They knew how hotly many of us were anticipating a white crystal, they had plenty of time to say something before it came to this and they just didn't. Not acceptable.
This is a ridiculously arrogant and foolish theme, Bioware seems to have latched onto, with this game. They've been doing this since beta. They get off on it. They love watching these forums speculate, and purposefully allow it to happen, because it entertains them. They honestly can't fathom the potential for failure that this kind of hubris can bring.

I was really hoping Bioware would be the mmo developer to bring a AAA game, AND not become the narcissistic, fan disrespecting, taking us for granted mess that Blizzard has become.

They know damn well whats in the game but if they hold off on releasing info and being straight with us, they can manipulate us into entertaining them, which seems more important than solid communication.

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StephenReid
01.30.2012 , 05:49 PM | #1135
Quote: Originally Posted by Forkrul View Post
Just because it's in the game files does not mean it is finished. It could be an area that is not yet fully built, but still has the associated loot already created. Or it could be a fully built and populated area that is still being tuned and the bugs being ironed out.

But yes, keeping fully working and implemented content away is bad imo.
It would be - and that's not what we're doing.

Content found via 'datamining' sites may be in the client, but that doesn't mean it's ready to be in the live game. When it's ready to be in the live game, it should be ready to play and even if it's not easy to find (in the case of an item, for example), it should be possible.

Following WraithAscendant's request, we'll close this thread now.

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StephenReid
01.30.2012 , 05:58 PM | #1136
Quote: Originally Posted by Fiachsidhe View Post
They know damn well whats in the game but if they hold off on releasing info and being straight with us, they can manipulate us into entertaining them, which seems more important than solid communication.
While we do know what's in the game, we don't 'hold off on releasing info' for the reasons suggested.

As per my previous post, an item (or mob, or quest, or planet even) may be in the game client, but that doesn't mean it's ready to be used/completed/explored. This is part of the process of live development. This isn't a case of there being extra content in the game that's waiting to be unlocked; an MMO will always be a living piece of software that is added onto continuously. (If everything was already done and we could just 'unlock it' when we wanted to, I know a lot of people around here who'd love to spend more time with their families. ) If a site decides to 'datamine' the game client, they may uncover content, or suggestions of content, that aren't in the game yet. If you read these sites you may come to your own conclusions, but we can't control that.

In the case of the White Lightsaber Crystal, yes, it was in-game during Game Testing. Yes, it was removed - as the development team decided they wanted to change the requirements to acquire it. That was a decision made, in their opinion, to benefit the game in the long term. To suggest that decision was made to 'mess' with players is unfair. It's simply not what was done.

We also did not monitor this thread for an extended period for our own 'amusement'. When we discovered this issue - and it was an issue - we took action. While it might be tempting to look for reasons that are bigger than the truth, the truth is very simple - we took action when we knew an issue was present.

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Yvin
01.30.2012 , 06:01 PM | #1137
Hello everyone!

This thread has exceeded our normal threshold and we are now closing it. While we normally recreate threads once they pass 1,000 posts, we will not be recreating this one. WraithAscendant has created a new version of this thread to encompass more than just the white crystals and we ask everyone to continue the discussion here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=252962

Thank you!