xstortion Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Just as the title says looking for this. I checked mmo-mechanics but it looks outdated there did a search here with no luck. Anyone have any resources on this I am looking for BiS even if it is outdated meaning if it is all 61's rather than 63's. Thank you in advance to anyone that can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahdasz Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Bis???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DkSharktooth Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) [With all 4 Buffs] 35% crit, 75-80% surge, the rest into power and very little alacrity. You want about 1.7x second cast for pve for rapid scan with critical reaction proced. All augments should be Reflex 22. All mods: Agile 27 / Agile 27A All Enhancements: Adept 27 All Shells: Tionese/Columni/Rakata because their set bonus is attached to shell, not armoring. Allows you to place Reflex 27 armoring in all slots for max stats. All Armorings: Reflex 27 Barrel: Reflex 27 Edited November 12, 2012 by DkSharktooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenjohnp Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 35% crit, 75-80% surge, the rest into power and very little alacrity. You want about 1.7x second cast for pve for rapid scan with critical reaction proced. All augments should be Reflex 22. All mods: Agile 27 / Agile 27A All Enhancements: Adept 27 All Shells: Tionese/Columni/Rakata because their set bonus is attached to shell, not armoring. Allows you to place Reflex 27 armoring in all slots for max stats. All Armorings: Reflex 27 Barrel: Reflex 27 That is so painfully not BiS. Just the fact that you even suggest 80% Surge is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DkSharktooth Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) That is so painfully not BiS. Just the fact that you even suggest 80% Surge is laughable. Why don't you make a chart for this post then you troll. Edited November 3, 2012 by DkSharktooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstortion Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 35% crit, 75-80% surge, the rest into power and very little alacrity. You want about 1.7x second cast for pve for rapid scan with critical reaction proced. All augments should be Reflex 22. All mods: Agile 27 / Agile 27A All Enhancements: Adept 27 All Shells: Tionese/Columni/Rakata because their set bonus is attached to shell, not armoring. Allows you to place Reflex 27 armoring in all slots for max stats. All Armorings: Reflex 27 Barrel: Reflex 27 Thanks for the response. This sounds like a similar formula I use for my dps sorc but with my sorc lettered mods were a no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstortion Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 I just don't understand the surge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan_sObak Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 All Shells: Tionese/Columni/Rakata because their set bonus is attached to shell, not armoring. Allows you to place Reflex I have a question: Tionese/Columni/Rakata shells have set bonus and Campaign armorings have bonus as far as i know. If i put Campaign aromorings in Rakata shells will i have two sets of bonuses? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daystarr Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I have a question: Tionese/Columni/Rakata shells have set bonus and Campaign armorings have bonus as far as i know. If i put Campaign aromorings in Rakata shells will i have two sets of bonuses? :-) Haha good one but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstortion Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Wouldn't it be nice to have a double set bonus lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownSi Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 35% crit, 75-80% surge, the rest into power and very little alacrity. You want about 1.7x second cast for pve for rapid scan with critical reaction proced. All augments should be Reflex 22. All mods: Agile 27 / Agile 27A All Enhancements: Adept 27 All Shells: Tionese/Columni/Rakata because their set bonus is attached to shell, not armoring. Allows you to place Reflex 27 armoring in all slots for max stats. All Armorings: Reflex 27 Barrel: Reflex 27 This is pretty much spot on, but I would not go with the 75-80% surge. At 75%, the diminishing returns you get for surge rating are not worth the sacrifice on other stats. Get to 75% and stop. From there you will have to swap mods/Enhancements to keep things level as you build your set. Campaign/DG armorings will not double your bonus, BUT....if you have Campaign/DG armorings, those armor mods carry the set bonus rather than the shell. This allows you to customize your look. But again, Shark is on the mark as far as getting ready and maxed out for the HM TFB/NM EC content. Shark, my question to you is whether or not your 35% crit rating is with buff and stim or without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geftra Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) you actually want 76% surge because the 1% from companion is not affected my diminishing returns.its the same for crit you want 36% unbuffed Edited November 12, 2012 by geftra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DkSharktooth Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 This is pretty much spot on, but I would not go with the 75-80% surge. At 75%, the diminishing returns you get for surge rating are not worth the sacrifice on other stats. Get to 75% and stop. From there you will have to swap mods/Enhancements to keep things level as you build your set. Campaign/DG armorings will not double your bonus, BUT....if you have Campaign/DG armorings, those armor mods carry the set bonus rather than the shell. This allows you to customize your look. But again, Shark is on the mark as far as getting ready and maxed out for the HM TFB/NM EC content. Shark, my question to you is whether or not your 35% crit rating is with buff and stim or without? With buffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstortion Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 May be a stupid question but how do you get the surge percentage? On askmrrobot it only comes up in a numeric value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Fuzzle Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The surge percentage is your cirtical multiplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstortion Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 The surge percentage is your cirtical multiplier. TY for clearing that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMDias Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 you actually want 76% surge because the 1% from companion is not affected my diminishing returns. its the same for crit you want 36% unbuffed Nope, u need 30% unbuffed... u will get to 35% with the Operative buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geftra Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) my bad you want 42% fully buffed actually. as the % increases dont affect diminishing returns Edited November 12, 2012 by geftra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akam Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) [With all 4 Buffs] 35% crit, 75-80% surge, the rest into power and very little alacrity. You want about 1.7x second cast for pve for rapid scan with critical reaction proced. All augments should be Reflex 22. All mods: Agile 27 / Agile 27A All Enhancements: Adept 27 All Shells: Tionese/Columni/Rakata because their set bonus is attached to shell, not armoring. Allows you to place Reflex 27 armoring in all slots for max stats. All Armorings: Reflex 27 Barrel: Reflex 27 I also recommend this setup. A top tier bodyguard merc will have +80% surge (even with the DR) for the following reason: THERE IS NO OTHER ENHANCEMENT THAT GIVES POWER. My current stats (buffed) are; AIM: 2378 Power: 1210 Crit: 35.48% Surge: 80.21% Alacrity: 4% (9% w/ Critical Reaction) Edited November 13, 2012 by Akam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthtrunkmonkey Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 That is so painfully not BiS. Just the fact that you even suggest 80% Surge is laughable. the funny thing about this troll is comparable to people that say dulfy doesnt do anything for the community of swtor shark is the dulfy of the BH community...i vote shark the first BH Mayor of swtor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownSi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 So I notice that in most of these posts no one takes alacrity at all really. I do understand the difference of what you will get with Power/Surge mods and enhancements over Alacrity, but what do you do in those high healing output fights where the entire raid is sometimes taking damage and you have to get them healed up quick? I guess the question is what are you seeing in regards to the difference between having say a 12% base Alacrity and a little lower min/max output over only a 4% base alacrity and higher min/max output? i ask because I am a believer in alacrity, as you can see in my setup below. http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/4b61f505-494d-4211-942b-376008f02163 I rarely have any issues overheating, and have kept up easily with out sorc and operative healers in MOX. I am not trying to start an argument here, but I just really want to understand how big of a difference we are looking at between the two setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChikenSammichPie Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Alacrity is crap. 250 points of alacrity results in a 21% reduction in heat efficiency. This would be fine if we had excess heat, but we don't. If we lower our heat efficiency, we have to rapid shots, and rapid shots are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DkSharktooth Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 the funny thing about this troll is comparable to people that say dulfy doesnt do anything for the community of swtor shark is the dulfy of the BH community...i vote shark the first BH Mayor of swtor Wow thanks. To bad there are no community class representatives or any pvp responses from the dev teams for individual classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmehSolo Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I've been merc heals since January 2012, and I notice Shark didn't say anything about crystals/implants/ear, but everything he said, I agree with. Based on personal experience, and preliminary threads/number crunching by others, you should always stack power, everywhere. Crit is nice, and Aim augs are a must, but power outperforms crit every single time. Also, surge is best, but I swap out 2-3 enhancements or implant ear piece to alacrity to fall into 5.5-7.5 percent speed. The surge loss is less than .5%, but the benefits are best. I take only 1 of the 2% alacrity boost in pyro, and 0 points in the bodyguard boost. I believe that to be BiS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedania Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If you don't take Critical Reaction and only spend 1 point in System Calibration - what does you PvE spec then look like? Please share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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