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Force bubble way OP

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Force bubble way OP
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djrobb
11.24.2012 , 03:47 PM | #501
just make it to where it cant be clicked off to activate boom working as intended.

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Nothematic
11.24.2012 , 05:34 PM | #502
I find it hilarious that us sorcs/sages finally got something worth using and already people cry about it. Go ahead, BW. You go back to nerfing things that don't need nerfing and we'll go back to dying. A lot.

Nerf lolsmash warriors/knights for the love of god. They can get rid of our bubble 3 times over on one GCD and get stunned for a couple of seconds before getting back to ripping us apart.

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MiaRB
11.24.2012 , 06:31 PM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by Eldriq View Post
Is this really that OP I mean in all the pvp matches I have played I have not once thought yea I won that fight with my bubble. Come on it is not like the bubble is all of a sudden causing matches to be won or lost. Most of these arguments are pretty farfetched and have a lot to do with "what if's". For months people have been complaining about the high burst damage classes and what did we get in response "l2p" with a list of our abilities that we could use against them. Never mattered that we could not even get off most of them before we were burned down. Now you hate the bubble because it is causing many classes to have to adjust there tactics.

Well that is how it is supposed to be adjust your tactics you have the abilities to break the bubble you have talent use it. Quit complaining about a bubble that is 95% used as a defensive mechanism. Yes you can break it early but I don't see a lot of people doing that so really how major of a situation is this? It is not like the sorcerers are going around in God Mode just one hitting people. The bubble works for the sorcerer and his teammates if someone has come up with a way to use it more efficiently and can find competent players to use those tactics then well good for them learn and adjust.
its not that the bubble is OP or that sages/sorcs are OP and its not about who winning or losing in WZs... its about what is fun vs what is not fun. 16 people running around with exploitable AOE autostun bubbles turns WZs into stun fests. there already is enough CC in the game, def didnt need this. especially didnt need to give sents/mars a non-stop on demand AOE stun that they can abuse all match long.
can't wait for this game to come out!

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LarryRow
11.24.2012 , 07:20 PM | #504
Yikes, this thread has been totally hijacked at times by people with vitriolic hatred of derpsmashers. I think very few people would dispute you that the recent smash buffs are way too much. Restore the cooldown, take away the armor penetration. Done.

Anyway, this thread is about the OP Sorc bubble. Look, obviously it was changed from a mez to a stun b/c mezzes are broken too easily and the skill wasn't useful enough. So they made it a stun. But they forgot to adjust the resolve amount. That is not working as intended and it's an indisputable fact. If you disagree u r just dumb.

Then you can click it off. So you can stun someone while stunned? Also not intended behavior. To disagree is lunacy. Disagreers please check yourselves into the nearest funny farm. MmkThx

"but then I can't throw bubbles on my whole team and turn warzones into irritating stunfests!" yes, you will actually have to be careful about who you bubble if it gives proper 600 resolve. Skill required!? Shocking, I know.

Not that I don't feel for you guys. Once the bubble is fixed, you will need some serious help in the survival and/or burst department. But let's please get our heads out of our butts and realize the bubble is broken for now.

By the way, as a guardian I am running the gimped Focus spec that also takes unremitting. So my opening goes like this:

1. Leap
2. Sweep
3. Laugh
4. ????
5. Profit
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Eldriq
11.24.2012 , 07:21 PM | #505
Okay I get where you are coming from and I am sorry you are not having fun and no I don't mean that sarcastically. But I want you to look at if from my point we already play a free kill character we are unwilling to roll another just to be able to pvp. And many of us do not want to be a healer. What you are saying is nerf stun bubble but hey give them something else. It has taken months for us to get this for crying out loud months of dying and dying and dying and dying. Now that we actually have something you want to take it away, you know and I know that they are not going to nerf and buff in the same patch instead they will nerf and then look at options for a buff later. And that is best case scenario. Plus you are not giving us anything to take away from the table just a nebulous buff in the future and lets be honest if we don't get it you will not be on this forum fighting for us you will be happily playing while we will be back to having no fun playing a class that is destroyed in pvp that is no fun for us.

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fungihoujo
11.24.2012 , 08:05 PM | #506
Quote: Originally Posted by MiaRB View Post
its not that the bubble is OP or that sages/sorcs are OP and its not about who winning or losing in WZs... its about what is fun vs what is not fun. 16 people running around with exploitable AOE autostun bubbles turns WZs into stun fests. there already is enough CC in the game, def didnt need this. especially didnt need to give sents/mars a non-stop on demand AOE stun that they can abuse all match long.
Yet- being nerfed into the ground as sorcs made the game extremely unfun too- if we're going to talk fun vs not fun. Mara being this strong also has made the game not fun for non-mara.

Yet- when such things are talked of, they get ignored by the same crowd now saying 'stun bubbles aren't fun, so take them out'.

If we're going to take out things that aren't fun- OP marauders, and how weak sorcs and mercs are- need to be addressed too.


And it is disgusting to see people I have seen saying 'nope, sorcs are fine, they need no buff, l2p' now saying 'ya, sorcs should get another buff they deserve it' for no reason other than it's what they have to say to try to get this nerf to go through.

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Kaile
11.24.2012 , 08:15 PM | #507
Quote: Originally Posted by MiaRB View Post
its not that the bubble is OP or that sages/sorcs are OP and its not about who winning or losing in WZs... its about what is fun vs what is not fun. 16 people running around with exploitable AOE autostun bubbles turns WZs into stun fests. there already is enough CC in the game, def didnt need this. especially didnt need to give sents/mars a non-stop on demand AOE stun that they can abuse all match long.
That's your arguement? Please. There are tons of different things that can make pvp no fun. You're just jumping on the bandwagon.

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BobaStyx
11.24.2012 , 09:33 PM | #508
DPS Sorc... Meet DPS operative and DPS merc. Mkay? Have a good day. Face it, there are 2 types of AC's that matter in PvP right now: DPS bursties and Healers. Full tanks of any kind are just laughable (esp PT's) so be thankful you even have your healing tree. The other two 'tanks' are all unintended hybrids in DPS gear. Nearly ALL of the AC's need a good tuning, some toned down, some buffed. There will never be a completely happy PVP community. The day that occurs is when they shut down the servers.

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fungihoujo
11.24.2012 , 09:43 PM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by BobaStyx View Post
DPS Sorc... Meet DPS operative and DPS merc. Mkay? Have a good day. Face it, there are 2 types of AC's that matter in PvP right now: DPS bursties and Healers. Full tanks of any kind are just laughable (esp PT's) so be thankful you even have your healing tree. The other two 'tanks' are all unintended hybrids in DPS gear. Nearly ALL of the AC's need a good tuning, some toned down, some buffed. There will never be a completely happy PVP community. The day that occurs is when they shut down the servers.
Coming from someone who has 4 classes... none of which are DPS sorcs, mercs or ops- you chose well my friend, very well.

But, yes- I and many other sorcs often say 'we are in a bad place, and so are mercs and ops' because it is true- all three classes are vastly underperforming right now.

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chimex
11.24.2012 , 10:13 PM | #510
Ok, sorc has been my bread and butter since 1.2 (I came about 2 weeks before that one!)

Ok, if they want to nerf bubble so it only clicks for caster, that's fine. I'll accept that. However, buff us in damage while you're at it. I agree, we're not known for our straight up defence. However, throw us a bone on DoT maybe, or reduce a couple of out cooldowns.
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