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What should my DPS be before starting hardmodes?

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What should my DPS be before starting hardmodes?

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Galbatorrix
11.01.2012 , 11:01 AM | #1
Hi, I have a level 50 Assault Vanguard and I want to start DPSing Hardmodes. I've just been doing dailies in an attempt to get ready. Currently, on the level 50 training dummies, I'm in the 800-900 DPS range. Is that good enough to start? I don't want to be a detriment to the group.

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mikebevo
11.01.2012 , 11:39 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Hi, I have a level 50 Assault Vanguard and I want to start DPSing Hardmodes. I've just been doing dailies in an attempt to get ready. Currently, on the level 50 training dummies, I'm in the 800-900 DPS range. Is that good enough to start? I don't want to be a detriment to the group.
if you are going with guild people, then I would say get going. PUGs then make sure you are 50s gear head to toe and I would suggest getting your martix cube if you haven't already. You may want to skip the random and go with a few of the easier ones at first to get geared up. Taral V to me is the easiest, but battle of Ilum and False Emperior are really easy too. You could read about the instances before jumping in if you don't know it, but if not tell the group up front you are new and don't know the instances. They should help you and if not, ignore them and get with a group that will help you. Also let them know that you need gear and would like to kill the bosses instead of skipping. You may get some jerks that don't want to kill the bosses and will kick you, but you are there for gear, so don't give up.

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uniz
11.01.2012 , 12:34 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Hi, I have a level 50 Assault Vanguard and I want to start DPSing Hardmodes. I've just been doing dailies in an attempt to get ready. Currently, on the level 50 training dummies, I'm in the 800-900 DPS range. Is that good enough to start? I don't want to be a detriment to the group.
first off i am assuming you are meaning fp hard modes and not ops.

sadly the way the hard modes are running now since the lfd came out is a race with over geared players to get bh coms. anyone they feel is under geared to them now is considered a "speed bump" and will be subject to many poor etiquette issues they have learned from other mmos whether or not such player can actually do the content. be prepared to deal with these.

to answer your question though from using a parse number wouldn't be possible and is one of many reasons why many people don't want parses in the game.( for example 900 is ok but 875 isn't is a idiotic measuring tool which most wow clone players learned to use.) in other words numbers alone are meaningless but rather what gear you have and how you play is more of a indication. way before the easement of endgame gear players would do just what you are doing to enter into the hard modes. that is run the dailies and go into the first few in the levels of difficulty tier one hms. such hms are t 5, man prison, and false imp. the rest will be more dependent on the others in your group. if you are "paired" into a group of over geared players you can do any of the first tier hard modes. if you are "paired" with a average or lower geared dps you will have a hard time doing those not named. for the love of god don't even think of doing lost island.

if you ever get into a t 5 group ask them if you can kill the last boss and the "droid" to help you gear up. these are skipped by most groups now.

make sure you pick up the hm weekly and daily also. they are located in the pve area where you get your hm/op gear at.

hopefully this helps you some, put on your running shoes and have some fun.

edit: what server are you on? if it is shadowlands i would be able to run some hms with you. considerate players are hard to find now days.

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mikebevo
11.01.2012 , 02:07 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by uniz View Post
edit: what server are you on? if it is shadowlands i would be able to run some hms with you. considerate players are hard to find now days.
agree with uniz, if you are on The Harbinger send me a private message. I would run some HMFP with you with either my healer or dps, depending on the time.

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Galbatorrix
11.01.2012 , 02:09 PM | #5
Thanks to both of you for the answers and suggestions! Also, I'm on Jedi Covenant. Though I will say, if you run into the same kinds of people running hardmodes in this game that you get in games like WOW, I'm very disappointed. Grouping with people through out the leveling process was very fun and a breath of fresh after playing WOW for the last 4 or 5 years.

I may just try to start up a PUG on fleet with other players also new to end game and trying to gear up. It may be easier than being called a noob, or failtard, or whatever other such names people use nowadays.


I'd also like to add that Bioware should reward people per Boss kill some how. It sucks that it's hard to gear up for new players due to everyone just putting the bare minimum in.

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Taiketo
11.01.2012 , 02:28 PM | #6
HM FPs, you're ready, none of them have tight enough enrage timers for you to worry. Just follow the leader, chances are good that everyone there will be ridiculously overgeared and rush through it.

Also, pick up the free Recruit Mk-2 gear on the fleet. It's almost certainly better than whatever you're wearing. You'll want to upgrade to Columi from there.

You might also want to make sure your build and rotation are optimal. 900 DPS seems fairly low, but I don't know what kind of gear you're in.

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mikebevo
11.01.2012 , 03:03 PM | #7
Hey don't get us wrong most random groups I get in group finder are great. Most of them wouldn't even mind killing the bosses too. Even was in a group the other day where the new 50 wanted to do the bonus, so we did. However, the bad groups are always what stands out in my mind and by bad I mean people wanting to kick just because someone was new or because the accidentally aggroed something.

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adelsin
11.02.2012 , 06:26 AM | #8
I need an acronym check, what is PUG?

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DracJedi
11.02.2012 , 06:53 AM | #9
Pug means pick up group. If you pick up the Mk2 recruit gear, you should be fine to do hard mode fps. Make sure you let the group know you are new. That way they can explain the trickier parts. The fps don't really have that difficult mechanics, but its better to learn them right from the start.

Most groups are pretty accommodating if you are up front. And if they are not, better to have them drop at the beginning.

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metaIsaber
11.02.2012 , 06:53 AM | #10
Pick Up Group