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What's the staus on Same-Sex Romances?

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What's the staus on Same-Sex Romances?

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cloudwalkerrr
10.27.2012 , 12:51 PM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaac View Post
This is the point we've been trying to make clear in multiple threads. We're not demanding that it be put in right now, we're not demanding they tell us every detail there is to know about it with an exact date and time of when we can expect to see it. We're just seeking clarification on a piece of content that we're interested in. It's exactly the same as people who make topics on F2P or a new warzone or the SSP. Yes we might not be as large in number as some of those crowds, but it doesn't mean we're not as interested in finding out what news we can.

Unfortunately a lot of people see a thread about SGRA's and assume that we're shouting about how we want it now, or complaining about it not being in yet or demanding to know every single detail about it. Time and time again we explain the situation and never seem to make any headway with the people we're trying to explain it to. Occasionally one of us might get a bit snappy, it's hardly surprising though if you see the sheer number of trolling or offensive or downright abusive posts we've had to tolerate repeatedly.
Yeah i see where you're coming from... I posted in this thread because i noticed when things started to go south and i wanted to point out that you can just roll some of the punches the people against it are throwing. I feel these threads will get better feedback and support if the people for it dont see it as "Discimination" whenever someone doesnt share their views, heck it happened to me! and i never said 1 negative thing about the topic.. so my point was proven. I know some people post rude things.. but like another poster said its easier to report it and move on and keeping pushing for what you guys want.

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Liquidacid
10.27.2012 , 12:52 PM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaac View Post
That's the point of the thread. We don't know if we should believe Gabe's interview or not since Hood's tweet linking to it was removed, so we're seeking clarification of if we should expect this content with Makeb or not.
considering the over all lack of information or specifics we have about the entire Makeb package I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to clarify this single issue... probably won't find out about it until all the info is released when it hits PTS or whatever

if we get any sort of answer about SRGs at all I'd expect just another "it's coming soon" type canned response that doesn't lock them into any specifics so they don't look like fools later if or when it changes... the fact the statement was removed or whatever would lead me to believe it either was made in error or that they just don't want it made yet because they are unsure if it will definitivly happen at this point
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cloudwalkerrr
10.27.2012 , 12:54 PM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
I think the thing that is bugging people more than anything is the lack of confirmation, and why. When at first they say "yes, it's coming this year" and then near the end of the year it's "sorry, we have no information to give at this time". Just something like, "it hasn't been canceled, just delayed" or "we currently don't even have it on our timetable anymore because of changes". It just feels like somebody has the answer but they're withholding it for whatever reason. I'm curious what the reason is, I can't really think of any positive ones. At best it's as you suggest, they just haven't ironed out enough of the details yet.

It's not the only features that's been treated this way. Since we've seen a slight increase in developer communication, I hope this will be changing soon.
Yeah its understandable for sure... we all want updates on the features we are looking forward to the most.

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utio
10.27.2012 , 12:58 PM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by cloudwalkerrr View Post
To be honest IMO.. I think Hood toggles arent important either. I understand alot of people ask for this and part of the frustration is the fact that its been requested for sooo long but if theres 1 group for it, 1 against it and 1 group that doesnt give a damn then yes... it also applies.
Well I'm for it, but if romance of any kind wasn't in the game I'd be fine with that too. So woop I'm in 2/3 groups
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Uluain
10.27.2012 , 01:00 PM | #105
They didn't say it will be in with Makeb. One guy, highly placed in the studio hierarchy but about as removed from story development as one can get, said that he thinks it may be in with Makeb, but he's not really sure because that isn't his area. All that he was able to confirm is that it is actually in developmemt and as of August was far enough along that it made sense to talk about it "just being a matter of getting it on the schedule".

That was Gabe Amatangelo, who is the Principal Lead PvP Designer, speaking in a video interview with swtor-life.com at Gamescom, in Cologne, Germany last August. That was more than two months ago. Just over one month ago, Lead Writer Hall Hood tweeted that for those wanting to know about SGRs, here's the official word from Gabe A. linking to that same video interview... BUT that confirming tweet was withdrawn without explanation the same morning.

So, no, they haven't told us anything solid since March, and all they really told us then was that it was coming with other story content, this year.

There are a slew of questions about how same-gender romantic content will be implemented that have never been addressed at all, and some of these are older than the announcement over a year ago that SGRs would be in at some point post-launch. Players have reasons other than curiosity for asking these, but the subject has been consistently and I would say deliberately passed over for discussion.

Further, you see threads like this popping up on General Discussion not because of long-time posters and commenters following the subject, like I do, but because the only discussion permitted is restricted to a single thread on an obscure side forum where no one who doesn't already know it is there will find it.

Now, when a thread like this does pop up, bet your sweet caboose I am going to post in it and discuss the subject and keep it visible for as long as I can. Because I think it is a lot more difficult to ignore a subject when it is visible, and because people aren't finding the discussion that's been running since January 17 on Story and Lore, and because some players have no idea that this content has even been announced, much less is being developed.

This thread will likely be locked on Monday. It is only a quirk of chance that the originating poster opened it on a Friday evening that allowed it to run so long. But I don't think hiding the subject, or hiding discussion of it, is a fair or helpful strategy. So, "official" thread or not, I mean to make the most of this one while I can.

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chuixupu
10.27.2012 , 01:05 PM | #106
I sometimes wonder if Gabe has gotten quite a ribbing for making that comment.
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QwibQwib
10.27.2012 , 01:12 PM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
I sometimes wonder if Gabe has gotten quite a ribbing for making that comment.
Maybe he wasn't aware of whatever gag order's in place because he's PVP, not story

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arunav
10.27.2012 , 01:12 PM | #108
I am all for LGBT rights in this country (I live in the US), including marriage, but don't understand why this is such a pressing issue in a videogame. There are lots of things that currently need to be improved in SWTOR, to keep it afloat and hopefully expanding next year, with more planets and class stories.

The romance conversations make up perhaps 2% of the entire story of a given character. Surely, it can't be that important relative to the rest of the game, including the addition of new systems like revamped space, pazaak, additional PvP maps and restructured areas (*cough* Ilum), etc. To insist otherwise is being unreasonably stubborn.

And, yes, there is a portion of the population, albeit immature, that would like to watch two cartoon women kissing on their computer monitor. Perhaps these people are unfamiliar with Google...

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Chaac
10.27.2012 , 01:16 PM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by arunav View Post
I am all for LGBT rights in this country (I live in the US), including marriage, but don't understand why this is such a pressing issue in a videogame. There are lots of things that currently need to be improved in SWTOR, to keep it afloat and hopefully expanding next year, with more planets and class stories.

The romance conversations make up perhaps 2% of the entire story of a given character. Surely, it can't be that important relative to the rest of the game, including the addition of new systems like revamped space, pazaak, additional PvP maps and restructured areas (*cough* Ilum), etc. To insist otherwise is being unreasonably stubborn.
Again, none of us are asking for it to be prioritized over anything else in development, we just want clarification of when we can expect it since there's some confusion surrounding that at the moment.
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QwibQwib
10.27.2012 , 01:17 PM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by arunav View Post
I am all for LGBT rights in this country (I live in the US), including marriage, but don't understand why this is such a pressing issue in a videogame. There are lots of things that currently need to be improved in SWTOR, to keep it afloat and hopefully expanding next year, with more planets and class stories.

The romance conversations make up perhaps 2% of the entire story of a given character. Surely, it can't be that important relative to the rest of the game, including the addition of new systems like revamped space, pazaak, additional PvP maps and restructured areas (*cough* Ilum), etc. To insist otherwise is being unreasonably stubborn.
Who said that this is "such a pressing issue?" The person who started this thread was only wondering what the status was of content that had been promised since well over a year ago. No where did anyone say that Bioware needs to release it now, we're simply asking for information about it.