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An in-depth look at: Lightsaber Forms- Juyo

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An in-depth look at: Lightsaber Forms- Juyo

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Aurbere
10.21.2012 , 06:05 PM | #1
"Six there were for generations of Jedi. The seventh is not well known. Powerful Form it is. Deadliest of all. But dangerous it is, for its master as well as its opponent. Few have studied. One student alone, to mastery has risen."- Jedi Master Yoda, Master of Juyo

The final Form taught by Cin Drallig is that of the aggressive Juyo Form. Here's Cin Drallig's final recording on Lightsaber Forms...

Form VII, also called Juyo, is the most difficult and demanding of all forms. Only high-level masters of multiple forms can achieve and control this discipline, which can lead to fantastic power and skill. Form VII employs bold, direct movements, more open and kinetic than Form V, but not so elaborate in appearance as the acrobatic Form IV. Unlike Form V, Form VII requires greater energy because the focus is wielded more broadly, and draws upon a deeper well of emotion; while the outward bearing of a Form VII practitioner is one of calm, the inner pressure verges on explosion. And unlike the graceful linked movement sequences of Form IV, Form VII tactics overwhelm opponents with seemingly unconnected staccato sequences. This combination of traits makes Form VII highly unpredictable in battle.
Because so few have achieved the necessary mastery to advance to Form VII, this discipline can only be regarded as under development by a select few, and forbidden to all others. Mace Windu and his former Padawan Depa Billaba are among the only practitioners of Form VII, and even they acknowledge that it is a dangerous regimen that may cut close to the Sith intensity of focus on physical combat ability.


The Juyo form is a powerful form indeed. Few practice the Form and even fewer can achieve mastery of it. The Juyo Form is the most offensive of the Lightsaber Forms and relies heavily on emotions. Darth Sidious labels the Juyo Form as the "Sith style", due to its intense focus on physical combat. Very few Jedi practice Form VII and many instructors refuse to teach it. Cin Drallig refused to teach the Form to Anakin Skywalker, as Qui-Gon did with Obi-Wan Kenobi. The Form is mostly used by the Sith. The Sith Lord Darth Maul was a practitioner of the Form.

The aggressiveness of Juyo form brings about weaknesses of its own. The Juyo form relies on aggression to maintain effectiveness. If the opponent can put you on the defensive, you would do best to switch to a defensive form or risk defeat. Juyo is also vulnerable to Force attacks.

There are only a few practitioners of Juyo, but there are those who study the form. Cin Drallig and Even Piell study the Form, but rarely use it. Practitioners of the Form include: Mace Windu, Yoda, and Depa Billaba.

Known Masters: Mace Windu. While Yoda has mastered Juyo, he rarely uses, while Mace Windu uses it as well as the Form of Vaapad, which he created.

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This ends Cin Drallig's teachings of the Lightsaber Forms. Next is Vaapad.

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ToEasy
10.21.2012 , 06:33 PM | #2
Good job. It should be known that Rahm Kota used this form if I remember correctly.
"Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. We fight for justice because justice is the fundamental bedrock of civilization: an unjust civilization is built upon sand. It does not long survive a storm." - Mace Windu

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Aurbere
10.21.2012 , 06:35 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by ToEasy View Post
Good job. It should be known that Rahm Kota used this form if I remember correctly.
Yes. Rahm Kota was a practitioner of Juyo, but I don't believe he mastered it.
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TalonVII
10.21.2012 , 06:58 PM | #4
Juyo, if i had been jedi, outside of using Djem-so and Shien, Juyo would of been a form i would of atleast learned.

I am sorry, but against another lightsaber fighter, this form can just steamroll another form. I honestly believe you master Juyo, you are a master swordsman, i mean truely master it and not have it master you.

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ToEasy
10.21.2012 , 07:02 PM | #5
I would rather learn Vaapad over juyo considering it fixed most of Juyo's weaknesses. Plus you can use your enemies fury against them and let it fuel you so you could last as long as the other person holds out. That is you don't get killed.
"Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. We fight for justice because justice is the fundamental bedrock of civilization: an unjust civilization is built upon sand. It does not long survive a storm." - Mace Windu

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Aurbere
10.21.2012 , 07:07 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by TalonVII View Post
Juyo, if i had been jedi, outside of using Djem-so and Shien, Juyo would of been a form i would of atleast learned.

I am sorry, but against another lightsaber fighter, this form can just steamroll another form. I honestly believe you master Juyo, you are a master swordsman, i mean truely master it and not have it master you.

Just my two credits.
Juyo users do become exceptional swordsmen, but even the masters of the Form acknowledge the possibility of emotion getting the best of them. It takes a master of not only the form, but their own emotions, can truly master Juyo.
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Aurbere
10.21.2012 , 07:10 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by ToEasy View Post
I would rather learn Vaapad over juyo considering it fixed most of Juyo's weaknesses. Plus you can use your enemies fury against them and let it fuel you so you could last as long as the other person holds out. That is you don't get killed.
Vaapad is a difficult form to master as it digs deeper into the well of emotions and you basically become a weapon of the darkness inside you. Mace Windu had mastered the Form to such a great extent that he didn't have to control his actions, he let his body and emotions dictate his movements.

Vaapad is particularly effective against Dark Side users. The Form creates a sort of energy siphon that feeds off of the Darkness emanating from the Dark Side user, which empowers the Vaapad user even more. It is the best form for fighting Sith, in my opinion.
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ToEasy
10.21.2012 , 07:23 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Vaapad is a difficult form to master as it digs deeper into the well of emotions and you basically become a weapon of the darkness inside you. Mace Windu had mastered the Form to such a great extent that he didn't have to control his actions, he let his body and emotions dictate his movements.

Vaapad is particularly effective against Dark Side users. The Form creates a sort of energy siphon that feeds off of the Darkness emanating from the Dark Side user, which empowers the Vaapad user even more. It is the best form for fighting Sith, in my opinion.
Which is why Windu was able to defeat Sidious in the lightsaber duel part of their fight. Vaapad is a good form if you know how to control your emotions.
"Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. We fight for justice because justice is the fundamental bedrock of civilization: an unjust civilization is built upon sand. It does not long survive a storm." - Mace Windu

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MasterMe
10.21.2012 , 07:24 PM | #9
Yes. This is my absolute favorite form. Although I think that the form has it's weaknesses, I'm the kind of person who thinks that the best defence is often a offense.

I would say that a Juyo user is like Braveheart. Seriously, does anyone else think so?

When I think of Juyo I think of some crazy man leaping around on a battlefield going absolutely nuts. This forms is wicked.

Good post.

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MasterMe
10.21.2012 , 07:25 PM | #10
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Which is why Windu was able to defeat Sidious in the lightsaber duel part of their fight. Vaapad is a good form if you know how to control your emotions.
Vaapad is only truely effective against a darkside user, right?